Wednesday, May 2

Sister is in!

Sue is all in for david's premie training! Yeah!

I told her about his premature ejaculation problem, and that I am currently in the process of mind fucking him with it by putting him through a bogus training regime as humiliation for him. I told her about the edging process I am putting him through. She actually giggled. She's as bad as me, and I thought only I was as bad as me!

I asked if she would like to considerably add to the mind-fuck by being invited to stay and watch one of his training sessions as "added motivation" for him.

Here was a bit of the ensuing conversation, best as I can reconstruct it:

S: Does he really have this problem?
J: Oh Yes.
S: And this is supposed to help him?
J: I doubt it.
S: So you are just playing with his mind?
J: Definitely.
S: Is he sensitive about it?
J: Oh Yes. Very.
S: Should we be doing this?
J: Absolutely
S: Is he going to like it?
J: Not at all.
S: Then we shouldn't do it, Julie.
J: He needs shit like this in his life.
S: For real?
J: Definitely for real.
S: You're sure?
J: Yes I'm sure.
S: Ok. Sounds like fun!
J: But you need to play it up for real. And really tease him about it.
S: Tease your husband about his premature ejaculation problem?
J: Yes. Totally own him.
S: Ok...

Phew!

I warned her that he might leak from his penis or even all out ejaculate in front of her. She said that's not a problem at all. She said it would be fun to watch him spurt and she was expecting it before now. I was confused and asked her how that jibes with her no sex policy. She reminded me that when we discussed the rules, we actually discussed exactly this, and it was fine. It's not sex. It's a guy jerking off. It's funny.

I was sure we hadn't discussed this, so after our conversation I looked back on the rules which I had documented at the time here on my blog, and she is absolutely right. We must have discussed it because there it is in black and white, but I have no recollection at all of discussing it in that much detail. My mistake. A good one for once!

So she is all in, and david is heading for a Royal Cock Up The Ass Mind Fuck!!!!

When Sue is there, I will have something large up his bum and let's see him last his minute under those circumstances! Not a chance. I will be slow to grab his cock and then he will get a strapping in front of Sue and I will even be asking Sue to give him the strap as well.

One of the other mind fucks I am planning is to expose his porn viewing habits to Sue at the same time.

As you know, I have been running Net Nanny lately to let me see what david has been surfing. I have noticed that he is partial to, get this, femsub Tumblr sites! There is one image he lingered on that I am definitely going to be using against him.


I confronted david regarding this one, and he admitted masturbating to it. I asked if he imagines he is the strong man dominating a woman, and if so I might need to forcefully remind him who does the spanking in our relationship!

He told me that no, when  he looks at that image, he imagines he is the young lady, draped helplessly over her dominant's shoulder, no doubt being hauled away for a severe hand spanking followed by an ass reaming into that exposed hole of hers.

He says he likes looking at submissive females because they are nicer to look at, and always look a lot more submissive than photos of guys in those positions. He says that if he fixates on a male sub in a photo than he feels a bit gay, and that turns him off because he claims to not go that way at all.

But I can only look at the picture above, and wonder that if he empathises with the girl, then surely he is imagining being hauled away and spanked by the big strong man, and if that is not gay, I don't know what is!

I asked him if I should find a gay man who looked like that to dominate him. I told him I would certainly enjoy that, and enjoy watching his red bum get well-sodomized to boot! He was adamant that he wants no part of that. That it does not turn him on at all. It would be beyond the limits of what we do.

I will back off on that, but looking at that picture, I still wonder...

So I will use that photo when I train him in front of Sue, as a sexual aid for him. I will be sure to let her know that he specially selected that image, amongst hundreds of candidates on the tumblr site, to jerk off to. Imagine the teasing possibilities!

Also, just out of interest, what do you guys think it says about my "man" that he jerks off to that picture?

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  1. I think you are right

    I think he wants you to "make" him do that

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    1. I will have to wait for him to tell me that, unfortunately!

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  2. Congrats! Sounds like You and Sue are in for a fun evening, and that little david is in for....even more than he ever bargained for! Hope it goes well, can't wait to hear all about it!

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    1. Yummy! Yes indeed. Sue and I are planning to have a lot of fun at david's expense. Now that I know that his, ahem, emissions are no cause for concern with Sue, it truly open up a world of possibilities.

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  3. Julie, I have been following this thread and love it. My hubbette is also "quick on the trigger" and can not fuck me as a real man could. In fact I have watched commercials that last longer than my hubbette. LOL

    Men are funny. They say no but that barometer between thier legs always gives them away. In my opinion he may be bi curious and like you I say go for it. Guys get so hung up on that macho bullshit. He gets hard in panties doesn't he? He enjoys humiliation? What's more humiliating than being cucked or dommed by a alpha male?

    Strip him naked and talk to him about cucking and men. I'll bet his little barometer pops right up. In fact, how about telling him if he can't fix he little PE problem maybe you'll find a real man to fuck you and make him watch and clean you after?

    He'll probably cum right on the spot. BTW, since hubbette cums in seconds, certainly not like a real man does he's not allowed to call it cumming. He is required to ask permission to make sissy.

    Can you image the look on his face to say nothing of your sisters face when he asked" may I make sissy"

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    1. That is a great idea, stripping him, tying his hands behind his back, and then asking about involving guys. If the barometer goes up, it will be a potent argument in favour!

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    2. becareful! don't ask questions you really dont want the answer to

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    3. Incorporate a blindfold...less visual distraction from the 'real world' will give you more incite into his 'fantasy' world...

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    4. My little sissy barometer just popped up at the thought of not being allowed to call it cumming anymore! Likewise to the thought of a real man using my wife, or, gulp, me! If I can never please a woman as a real man, perhaps I need to be used to please men!

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    5. Exactly. It would turn me on to see my partner be used, and used hard, by a man.

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  4. I see nothing gay about his interest in the picture. Even if you had a "gay" man come in and dominate him, it wouldn't make david "gay". Either you are or you aren't. What it does for me, and most likely david, is it fuels the fires of submissiveness. I say go for it, sometime in the near future.

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    1. Good point. And I would add that who cares if he likes men as long as he likes me too. I too see involving another man as being the absolute ultimate in submission for him, ESPECIALLY if he has no interest in men!

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  5. Julie, I think David was honest with you on what he said. But I also think there are other things about this pic that arouses him. He sees an alpha male taking what he wants. I am wondering if he fantasizes about an alpha male pleasing you in ways he can't. Would he like to see you having sex with this stud? Would it arouse him if you were his "slutty" wife who had a huge appetite for sex with endowed men? He desires submission, so would it make it give him more submissive pleasure to give you a gift of sex with other men?

    I would ask him those questions. Or just tell him you are aroused by this stud and would like to be his girl and see if his dickie gets hard.

    Shades

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    1. I think David is being honest with you about not being gay. I've had a fetish for spanking for as long as I can remember. But in 9th grade a friend of mine was paddled at school and then again at home for getting in trouble at school. Her getting punished was all my fault and not hers but I was to coward to step up and take the blame. She told me how bad it hurt to get paddled with her thin nylon panties on, both at school and from her mom on just her panties and then bare. I've since fantasized about being put in her place and spanked in panties or forced to wear them as punishment. I don't feel like that makes me a sissy or crossdresser it's just a fantasy. But in reality if it could happen it would be relief of some of the guilt I've carried for years because of what I did to this poor girl. If I could be subjected to the same punishment she got, real discipline and not play. Unfortunately my wife does not share my same desires (lucky David) so for me it's just fantasy and alot of self spanking. So I would listen to his feelings and not put him through anything he does not desire as far as being gay is involved. It's like me fantasizing about being that girl back in school and trading places with her for the punishment. It's the fantsy in my mind not that I feel like a woman trapped in a mans body. I'm very happy with my manhood I just wish a woman would keep me in line from time to time. I love your blog and wish I could trade places with David for some real punishment. Your a great wife and from what I've read on your blog a great disciplinarian.

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    2. I agree with Shades.......I think your husband has fantasies of being cuckolded, with you being taken by an alpha male like the one in the photo.

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    3. Maybe... I won't jump straight to that conclusion that he is interested in cuckolding from his interest in the photo. He says his only interest is imagining he is the submissive gal. Besides, I'm quite sure I personally am not interested in having sex with another man. Having another man spank or fuck david, on the other hand, is another question altogether!

      For anony, sorry to be the one to tell you this, but your interest in being put into panties and spanked DOES make you a sissy and a cross-dresser. The truth hurts ;-)

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    4. Ok so you called me out on that one Julie. The feel of panties is exciting as well as a FLR. I just meant that I'm interested in women taking control and punishing me as they see fit. I am comfortable being a man with a few kinks. And I guess I would be a sissy in panties. That's what makes your blog so great you speak like a true disciplinarian. Best wishes and I will continue to enjoy your blog.

      P.S. The truth probably doesn't hurt as bad as one of your spankings. LOL

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    5. I agree there is no problem with being a sissy. You know you are, and you accept it, so you are a very intelligent man! And yes, if I got my strap out...

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  6. I love how devious you are. He probably has mixed feelings and is afraid of them. I remember the first time a Domme asked if I would suck a cock for her. These planed thoughts have a way of growing strong.

    I suggest you go slow but keep bringing it up. Many have him start a journal to capture his thoughts.

    Have you looked for another local Femdom couple? As to cuckolding, bring in up during training. Many go out dancing and have him watch you. Even if you don't cuckold him it could be a mind fuck. But figure out how he feels.

    I do believe that you are conditioning him and that the fantasies you plant as you play will grow in his mind. Been there done that. craig

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    1. Nope. No interest in cuckolding from my end. david is plenty for me. But having him spanked and fucked by a male (under my control) I'm all for. I will take your advice and raise it a few more times to see if it raises anything in him, as QG suggests.

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  7. Julie, I stumbled across your blog several weeks ago and I must say that I absolutely love it. I've always fantasized about being taken across a woman's knee and given a nice hard and real spanking. I'm not sure if my wife and I will ever realize that scenario...I think it would be difficult and a bit unrealistic, being as though I'm 6'6" 260 lbs. and my wife is 5'5", LOL.

    When I first read your post about your husband's "premie" problem, I couldn't help but think of a hilarious video that was on SNL. Here's the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

    I know that your husband's premie issue is no laughing matter but that video cracks me up everytime I see it! Hahaha

    -Tad

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    1. Boys are never too big to be taken across a woman's knee! Where there's a will, there's a way. Sometimes what I do with david is put him face down on the bed, over some pillows, and then I slide up right next to him, my bare leg pushing up against him and my left hand holding him down by the small of his back (so he knows I'm there), and spank him like that. Still very intimate and gives him the feeling of being across a knee.

      I love that video! Thank you for sending it. I do disagree with you though, his premie problem is indeed a laughing matter (to me anyways!)

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    2. That sounds like a nice position to be in ;-) Maybe my wife and I will try that one day...we have yet to do anything like that but I have a feeling she would be open to the idea of spanking me.

      Glad you like the video! Like I said before, that video cracks me up everytime! LOL

      Take Care,

      Tad

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    3. Tad??? WTF??? If you think she would be open to it then go for it. Immediately! Right now! Times a wasting!

      Don't let your relative body sizes put you off. It's the brain that counts. You are wired to be a submissive. She is a woman. That makes her the dominant brain. She is much bigger than you in this regard. Physical size is nothing. As a submissive, you will lay there quietly and take your beating. Size does not matter.

      In my experience, most women are wired to be nurturing and caring and strict when called for. Mommy spanks, don't you know?

      Ask her to please spank you, tell her this is something you need. Suggest the position I suggested. Make sure she uses an implement. She will hurt her hand on your bare bum otherwise.

      She might well love it, and then you will be in for it!

      She is nurturing, though. Agree on a safeword. If you say the safeword, she will stop. Then make sure you use the safeword, even if you don't feel the need. At first, she will struggle with hitting you hard enough. It is hard to imagine how much you big boys can take, and she will be worried about hurting you. She needs to work up to that. Don't be selfish. Say your safeword after she has done something. Next time, you can draw it out longer.

      Happy spankings!

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  8. david looking at this does not mean he has gay issues. I think he wants to take control of things and have strong hand on things like you do. Do you see that he looking a picture that does not show any hint of dick or balls. The guys eyes are locked on a bare bottom showing off a nice ass hole and pussy. That has smooth look to it. What does the ink also show about your little david. The arm that are tied behind the back of the sub. Your little pe david is tell alot. Time for a pe to have a pubic hair shave at the hands of you and Sue. Think about getting him some ink. The hiding of dick and balls is another way of asking you to help him hide them when he is in his panties. Find a cd and check into the best ways of doing this. With the girl over the shoulder not seeing what is going should be his next step. Blindfold him and not let him know that Sue is helping. With the blindfold in place be sure to double it so he has no chance of seeing. You and Sue can tease him at will. You talk and let her not say a word just feel her rub against him. Let her blow in his ear. Let her smack your bare bottom and let david blow his load. Only will take a few sound smacks. Let her leave while he is in the corner. Then have her over a few times the next few days and let her drop hints of the night and things that happen even the smacks. I bet he blows his load thinking about all over again. Play this with him for awhile and not let him know that Sue is in. Let her know about the pone he is watching She can be click on the pictures while you talk to him about the picture. "What is a man with a female over his shoulder in a barn. What the arm tied behind her back and he is smacking her butt." david why in the world are looking at this? Let share his thoughts and not let him see. The hint from Sue the next day could be this. Julie, I was at the gym and seen a man with a large tat on his arm.He had a body of a gym rat with out hair and have her laugh and slid her hand over her tits so david can see this. I bet his panties will be wet.

    Just a few idea's

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    1. Why suffie, more than just "a few" ideas I would say. Thank you for that. I can see you studied the photo very carefully indeed! I read them all carefully and will definitely put some of them in my bag 'o tricks.

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  9. david wishes he were an alpha male. I'm sure he is jacking off to this because he is incapable of being the strong, dominant male in the photo. i firmly (no pun intended) believe this kink should be explored with david. i believe david would secretly love to be dominated by another man (at your direction). i am sure he wants a strong man to spank him for being so "pussy whipped" and maybe to be forced to suck his cock and swallow. We have had parties where Her girlfriends are present along with a male stripper. i was spanked by him and forced to suck his cock much to everyone's amusement. Talk about being taken into deeper subspace!


    And yes - i did swallow!

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    1. I think what you're saying is maybe he wishes he wants to be an Alpha Male (that's a mouthful - think about it), but unfortunately, what he really wants is to be a subservient female.

      I love the humiliation She put your through. Spanked by a real man in front of a group of girlfriends sounds awesome! And I am glad you were made to give head and swallow, you little cock slut you!

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  10. WOW! And if I read properly, you would actually enjoy watching he be taken by a man?

    submissive husband

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    1. Oh Yes! BIG fantasy of mine.

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    2. David better watch out! How do you think he will react when you get to a point, that you 'ask" him to help you with that fantasy?

      Submissive husband

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    3. He may never agree, and if so, I won't force it. A gal can dream, though!

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    4. I'm betting not only will he agree...but when you wrest his confession from him, you will soon be able to get him to BEG to have his ass fucked by another man. Now that would be humiliating for him (and highly titillating for you..and maybe Sue?!)

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    5. Oh yes. I would love him to beg for that while we watch!

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  11. Ms. Julie, you continue to astound me, you are just awesome.

    Wow, one lucky man.
    Ron

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    1. Thank you ron! But for the record, I also consider myself a lucky lady to have my little man toy.

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  12. Wow Julie you truly are a diamond in the rough! This is quickly becoming one of the best femdom blogs on the net imho. Also I don't think that david looking at that picture makes him gay at all (maybe a little bi-curious lol!), I think the reason he is so turned on by those pictures has more to do with the humiliation aspects involved in being dominated by an alpha male. If I were you I would use these ideas to tease him, but don't force him too far down the rabit hole that it builds resentment (not that I think you would).

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    1. Excellent comment. I agree with everything you say. No resentment from my boy. Nothing but happy and safe after all is said and done

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  13. Julie,

    Well well well...that is a bit of good fortune Sue remembered the initial rules on masturbation in front of you both is fine. As you and I had discussed previously you thought that Sue's attitude and willingness on the topic might be a difficult hurdle to overcome. It IS nice to be wrong in in a while. It sounds like your plans are all set. Can't wait for the next installment.

    As for the sumfem picture I tend to agree with jeminfla's comment. I am not gay or even bi, but I liked the photo too. Of course, I am wired to be a switch even Cleo will never allow me to dominate her for a second - she is wired to be a domme, period. In any case, it is a lovely picture of a submissive female and the view of her pussy doesn't hurt either. Is david gay or bi? It's possible I supppose, but it would take more than him liking that picture to convince me of it.

    Good luck with the next premmie training session!

    Marc

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    1. I don't know what I was thinking, totally forgetting about the discussion like that. I guess I got too worried about spooking Sue.

      I think your point-of-view on the picture is the right one.

      Looking forward to you carrying out your dare, marc... come on now... If I do it with Sue...

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    2. Don't worry. It is high on our priority list. I suffered a bit of an injury, now healing, that put us behind schedule. Maybe this weekend? If not, shortly thereafter.

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  14. I take David at his word--I think that anything gay or bi WOULD turn him right off! I think that he just admires the submissive and identifies with that position, and SINCE he is hetero, he loves the sight of the female bottom!! That's all.

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    1. That's the majority consensus, though you put it very concisely and eloquently!

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  15. So I can wank to a lot of different pictures, but that one really doesn't do much for me at all...which should have you worried!

    Spank his ass!!! Sue too!!!

    g

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    1. A minority viewpoint, but also very valid.

      I shall certainly spank his ass with a strap (and invite Sue to as well) after he jizzes on the floor and licks it up in front of us...

      oh my... now I'm getting warm and damp "down there"!

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  16. As the dom, I think you have certain obligations to protect as well as lead.

    I think that the idea of forcing him to engage sexually with anyone other than you is wrong. If you did, and if he is genuinly submissive then I expect he would do it. But I still think it is wrong for you to do it. I think it crosses a line.

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    1. I agree with you completely. I would never do it unless we agree in advance that it is a line he wants me to push him into crossing.

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  17. Hello Julie,
    Love your blog. I also am a submissive man, who recently ended a 10 year female dominat relationship.

    If he says he is not turned on by the man in the picture, believe him. I enjoy being spanked and dressed in panties & being humiliated, but the idea of another man in the relationship is a definate turnoff and a line that I would not think of crossing.

    I am attracted to women & enjoy being dominated by WOMEN, I have even been dressed in panties & spanked in front of other women. But the idea of a man is a whole different story. Please do not take the blog in that direction.

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    1. The blog goes wherever david and I go, and if a spanking from a man on david's little bare ass while I watch is in the cards, then so be it! BVut I think you have little cause for concern, as so far david is vehemently opposed (despite my strong interest).

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    2. Vehemence is very frequently an indicator of a secret, deep, dark desire. How many professed homophobes are caught doing...

      Proceed firmly but cautiously, and I'm certain you (and david) will be rewarded. Is this (david being spanked/taken) by a male something you would share with, or have witnessed (maybe the "second time" by Sue)?

      Perhaps the female pro domme could suggest a potential candidate if it gets that far...

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    3. Excellent idea about the pro. I hadn't thought of that and was wondering how I would ever pick up a gay man, as my usual bag of tricks wouldn't quite work.

      Still, I think it's unlikely for david to agree, but we'll see.

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  18. I could only give my opinion based on what I see in the picture & how it stimulates my thoughts. I am married , love my wife & have a need to be dominated and she knows that. She often spanks me because she knows it makes me cum my hardest. I sometimes dress for her & put on a fashion show as she calls it. I do like to dress in lingerie as I`m being dominated. What she doesn`t know is I would love to be dominated by a man while she watched . I crave the humiliation that I think it would bring . I get very turned on thinking of dressing for him, getting spanked, orally servicing his manhood & finally bending over for his use as she witnessed the whole scene. I would love to hear her comments and what she thinks of me as I serve him & get used & abused. As far as she knows I am heterosexual but I don`t know that for sure. I wish I could tell her but it scares the Hell out of me because I think she would leave me. I don`t believe I`m gay because I love women.

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    1. Ha Ha! you are my perfect man. I would love it if david came to me and asked for those things.

      Of course, it may be daunting from a practical point of view. How can your wife find such a man?

      I find it easy to believe you are not gay but want that. What is more humiliating than not being gay but being treated like that, under the direction of your wife? You need the humiliation, and the man aspect maximizes it.

      Perhaps you are not giving your wife enough credit? Tell her about your fantasy, emphasizing your need to be humiliated in front of women, and this is the ULTIMATE humiliation. Reassure her your are not gay, and want to be hers forever.

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    2. Wow,It makes me so happy to hear that. Your opinion is like a breath of fresh air to the silence I keep, which is suffocating me .I have often in the past thought I was a freak for fantasizing about such shameful scenarios. It`s so good to know there are women that understand my craving for this type of humiliation .
      I love being submissive to my wife & all the humiliation I get from her. I wish I could go deeper into submission by sharing my most secret desires with her .There are times I feel very close to her, like when I`m lying over her lap with my baby doll nightie pulled up & my panties pulled down .I feel so exposed & vulnerable as she spanks me ,but I feel very safe under her control. I lay crossed her lap as she tells me what a submissive little sissy I am ,and how all sissies need a good spanking to keep them in their place. That is almost always followed be a good strapon session .Sometimes,I`m ordered to perform for her with some of the toys she enjoys watching me with most. It`s at times like that I feel I can tell her how submissive I really need to be. I have often hinted to her about my submitting to a man for her, but she shows no signs of accepting that idea at all, unfortunately I can`t even get a reply from her.

      This is so embarrassing to admit but it feels so good to confess this to a Dominant Lady such as yourself. I would obey my wife`s every command. I would serve whom ever she ordered me to without hesitation. The thought of another woman present to witness such a humiliating scene takes my breath away. The presence of them witnessing my subservience would bring my shame & humiliation to a new height. I can`t help feeling this way no matter how hard I try an deny these feelings. I can`t help my cravings to be humiliated like this .It`s like a drug I can`t seem to get enough of. Having two women watching a man spank my bare bottom as if I were a helpless teenage girl !!! Having no choice but to look at them as they watch me submit to his advances. I can imagine their faces smiling at me with a hint of arrogance & a look of satisfaction. Letting me know I am to comply with his every move & be the women for him that he needs. Thinking about it as I write this has me quivering in my pink lace panties .Oh my.... I`m getting carried away, sorry about that.

      My wife has known for years that I want & need to be humiliated in front of other women, but doesn`t want it bad enough herself I guess, it may never happen for me.We have been together since 1981,we met in high school. She knows I would never leave her for anyone. I`ve been submissive to her for many years & will continue to be. There is so much I would like to tell you but I `m sure you don`t want to hear all the details.
      I recently found your blog & am so intrigued by it .I imagine I will become a regular ,I can`t seem to stop checking for updates. Reading your replys to everyone is very exciting .
      I think your man has a few secret desires he can`t yet admit to you or maybe even himself for that matter. I may be wrong but not entirely .In the photo that you have posted I think David has thoughts of himself being the girl slung of that specimens shoulder. It is just my opinion that it`s only natural for those thoughts to enter a subs mind even if he swears to being heterosexual .

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    3. Wow! I just carefully read your response here. Sorry for not getting to it sooner!

      "Having two women watching a man spank my bare bottom as if I were a helpless teenage girl!!!"

      That is super hot. A real fantasy of mine to be one of those women watching you get that. I would take great pains to bathe you for him in advance, dress you in the finest lingerie, make you up prettily with bright red lips, and then, teetering submissively on your high heels, bring you down to him for your spanking... and your ass fucking...

      So hot!

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    4. My thoughts as a submissive male are he may not be gay there, but he is picturing getting cuckolded by You with this big guy. He'd be in the corner, helplessly watching and in lingerie. Maybe the guy would come over and humiliate him, maybe it would just be things You said to him while it was going on... So, more the *ultimate* humiliation than anything.

      Of course, the problem with that is he told You what he was thinking.

      I'd love for my Wife to make me dress up and made up, and have me parade for my wife's friends... so humiliating! But the cuckolding and perhaps being forced to 'fluff' a guy (I'm straight) is even more humiliation, on the amp-meter. Gawd, your thoughts make me tent my panties... :)

      Now, back to the story of the weekend... hee hee!

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    5. I wish I could get my Wife / Mistress to share in the excitement. I would not disappoint whomever was to prep me for that event. I would make them extremely satisfied that they were there to witness my humiliation. Yes, the heels would be very important for my walk to the room of my submission. Five inch open toe mules without platforms. My toes freshly painted to match my lips. I would need some assistance for the march to my degradation .Not due to the high heels, but shaking from the weakness in my legs as I anticipate what was about to happen. If my wife allows this to happen, Mistress Julie you will get the first invitation. If you can`t make it I`m sure she would have it recorded for your viewing pleasure. I`m pretty sure I would be totally humiliated to the point of tears. Oh Mistress I need this to happen !

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  19. Julie,
    I think you are capable of almost anything. You are so very imaginative.

    I don't believe you would (and I hope you do not) put david into a sexual situation with another man.

    I have said earlier that you are "tough but oh so gentle" I still have that belief in your judgement and actions. As far as Sue being involved, you two women are sooo wicked. I cannot wait for the next exciting installment.
    Observing

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    1. Absolutely. Not without his consent, and a very explicit one in this case.

      I just hope he eventually consents!

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  20. Maybe you should try 'milking' poor little david as described here (http://tmblr.co/Z5TY2yCYJ6-F). The 'author' describes it as deeply humiliating - perhaps even more-so if done in front of your sister? Maybe even consuming the resulting effluent?

    Milking (as opposed to sex) leaves a man just as horny as before, albeit now drained. Maybe THEN your husband could fulfill his "manly" duties of providing an erect penis for his wife's (lengthier) pleasure.

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    1. Interesting. I always thought of 'milking' as just a hand-job. This sheds new light on it for me. Thank you!

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    2. Noooo!! It is a contact-free with regards to the penis. Thus the humiliation and frustration...truly a milking. Lots of resources on the web. It is frequently employed by those practicing long-term chastity play as a way of ensuing prostate health.

      You might introduce it as a 'medical procedure' - devoid of any sexual overtones. Lab coat, lube, latex gloves, david on his knees as you absentmindedly milk him while carrying on a conversation with Sue in the same room on innocuous matters. Of course, it would be left to david to clean the tray underneath him (with his tongue not doubt) as well as dispose of the gloves, etc.

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    3. I will do some research and give it a try. Thank you!

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  21. In terms of the photo I’m not the best person to ask since I’m a switch and don’t view much porn, but I can certainly say that at least parts of your husband’s explanation rings true – her “exposure” seems to me to be the central focus of the picture and if he has similar desires it’s understandable that that’s where he’s looking. I have basically no interest in photos with men in them (some say that we see them as a competitor) unless they’re extremely romantic or abstract. Your husband might even prefer a big strong woman carrying the girl… and I think women in general need to be more understanding, whether they call it homophobia or not, of most men’s complete rejection of any gay activity. The best comparison I can draw is that it may be as unthinkable to (many of) us as it would for you to fantasize about sex with a favorite horse or dog, except that we wouldn’t have the emotional incentive.

    So on this one I’d say that while he should be ashamed of masturbating at all with such a wonderful and exciting mate and he should be ashamed for reveling in the woman’s demeaning exposure, it’s pretty normal and understandable.

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    1. Your analogy with bestiality is, oddly enough, informative. I never thought about it that way, but I certainly don't have the same violent revulsion to being with another woman as he does from being with another man, so it has always been hard to understand his reaction before. Your analogy makes it very, very clear for me!

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  22. If I may make a second comment, it’s about your remarks on humiliation – and things he enjoys being embarrassed about vs. real shame. It seems to me that an awful lot of humiliation can be dissipated by acceptance on your and/ or your sister’s part. The more you tell him it’s okay, the less shame he will feel – which is normally what you want to do, reassuring him that there’s nothing wrong with him (morally, generally). One way to increase humiliation – playfully or otherwise – is to punish him for normal male “activities” like passing gas, picking his nose while driving, or noticing another woman’s breasts.

    In this case, it might be better for your sister to appear much more reluctant – possibly even specifying that when the time comes for his release (presumably after his training) that it be done in private. This might be coupled with a feigned overall reluctance to participate at all, where you insist that your husband help you coax her into accepting. Finally, she can express the opinion that his times are ridiculously short, his punishment(in context) trivial, and your standards for him intolerably low, since meeting these standards ought to be more or less automatic and would not approach acceptable male behavior – and/or she can propose much longer times or harsher punishments as a basic human or spousal minimum.

    In any case, I think a lot of humiliation is about what you deem unacceptable, though you do seem to have chosen the ultimate subject…

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    1. Excellent suggestion! Sue is over tomorrow (she could not make today, Friday). I will ask her to take this stance. I love it!

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    2. I agree...perhaps Sue might be induced to volunteer (perhaps exaggerate) that based on HER experience, the shortness of david's stamina and how truly inadequate it (and he is).

      I'm guessing he has no idea how long it takes other men to climax when having sex with a woman, and might be discounting what he sees in porn as being atypical. If she were to assure him that his performance is waaaay below average, it would up his humiliation (and your enjoyment).

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    3. Mission accomplished on the humiliation front, just as you were writing this, in fact! Read my latest.

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  23. Julie, another great post. I do have permission to view your blog and I hope that david will be trained to provide reliable service. I did enjoy the picture and can easily imagine the male in the submissive role. Your thoughts about discipline administered by another man would certainly be a very humiliating punishment for david. That subject has come up a few times in my household and it scares me.

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    1. I'm starting to think us women need a ready supply of big strong gay men to spank (and sodomize) the last little bits of homophopbia out of you all.

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  24. If David says he has no gay tendencys I would take him at his word, because I can identify with him very much. I enjoy watching a woman spank a man, but it is the dominant woman that turns me on, and I will be watching her, not the guy she is spanking. I just find dominant women exciting, but for the most part I am a dominant man.

    HUGS,
    Dave

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    1. Hod on dave, if you are a dominant, how come your monicker is "overHERlap"? Huh? Explain yourself!

      But good thought, from a topsy-turvy point-of-view.

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    2. with all due respect, a dominant man can enjoy the thought of being spanked by a capable, confident woman - it's just a lot harder to find one willing to try, and finding a it in a relationship partner is even more difficult, though hope springs eternal.

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  25. Not sure I can add anything to this discussion at this late date but I am making my way through your journal entries and commenting as I come to them. Although I believe a FLR is the way of the future for my wife and I, I certainly don't think of myself as any less dominant a male, except when it comes to her requirements. I am confident that if she chooses to take part in this lifestyle she will guide me to places I would never of got on my own. Spankings for pleasure and punishment will be a part of that journey as well as things that might also be humiliating I guess. Not sure that being spanked or fucked up the ass by a man will be part of our journey but I am willing to let her guide us in that part of the journey with full confidence that she will only take us where she thinks we need to go. If it pleases her it will please me!

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    1. It sounds like a hard over-the-knee spanking and long hard fucking from a strong man under your wife's direction are in your future, what with a good attitude like that.

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