Friday, December 9

Project Veritas Poops the Bed, Munk Debate, and Twitter

There's this right wing group called Project Veritas led by this guy James O'Keefe. They're biased, but generally pretty good. Recently, though, I think they really pooped the bed taking this right wing "groomers" talking point too far.

Before I get into it, maybe a little background on Project Veritas first.

The founder/leader is a guy named James O'Keefe.

He came to prominence in 2009 doing an undercover sting operation against a left-wing group called ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). He pretended to be a pimp, with his colleague as a prostitute.

That's a publicity shot.
He didn't dress like that on the actual video.

Using a camera hidden in his necktie, they recorded the staffers in ACORN offices around the country explain to them how to lie on tax and welfare forms, and how to declare the underage Salvadoran girls he claimed to be trafficking into the U.S. to become prostitutes as his dependents. The reporting led to the group's collapse. Project Veritas has been going strong ever since.

They mostly have their agents go on a date with a subject and do undercover video that they then broadcast on their channel. Sometimes whistleblowers go to them and he interviews them.

They are definitely right wing. They selectively choose to go after and report on targets on the left. They have gone after some on the right, but the vast majority are on the left. I don't imagine leftists bring them leads, on the other hand.

However, within that constraint, their integrity is generally pretty good. They have not been caught in a blatant lie yet, and they do fact checking and multiple sourcing to a greater extent then most mainstream media tend to. While they obviously edit video, they are quite good at leaving in the context, and make the full video available in controversial situations.

They're constantly being sued (generally for libel), but they vigorously defend themselves and win the vast majority and have not lost in any significant or telling way yet. The mainstream media publishes a lot of lies about them, and they vigorously go after them and get retractions (threatening lawsuits otherwise). They have a "Wall of shame" with over 300 journalists who had to print retractions after lying about Veritas.

They definitely engage in "click-bait" journalism (as does everybody else), and most of their stories and  "Giant Exposés" are not as sensational as they make out, but there's almost always newsworthy stuff there.

One thing they've been going after lately is the whole left-wing "grooming" stuff, where the left is trying to normalize alternative gender and sexual preferences with young children (such as "drag queen story hour" where biologically male drag queens dressed in very skimpy outfits twerk in front of nine-year-old children).

The right has a conspiracy theory that the left intends to "groom" children because there are a lot of pedophiles amongst them who wish to take advantage of the children. Myeh. I think the left just wants to break the cycle and have the children grow up to be tolerant of alternative gender and sexual preferences. I do think that sometimes the left gets a little over enthusiastic, especially when they do it in classrooms without informing parents and against the parents wishes (that is what the Florida misnamed "Don't Say Gay" bill tried to stave off).

All of this is NOT to say there aren't real groomers and real pedophiles running around. I don't think it's a political thing. We covered my views on that in an earlier blog-post. Here is the summary:

Getting back to these more recent videos, I really think Project Veritas got it wrong and unfairly targeted the subject of this video:

The Dean of Students at a prestigious Chicago private school describes to an undercover reporter an event during Pride Week.

During Pride, we do a Pride Week every year, and I had, like, our LGBTQ+ health center come in. They were passing around butt plugs and dildos to my students. Talking about queer sex. Using lube versus using spit.

Who was this?

This is an LGBTQ+ health center came in to talk to my high school students. They're just like passing around dildos and butt plugs. The kids are just playing with them. They're looking at them. In a classroom. While I'm sitting there.

No big complaints? I mean, if the parents found out would they...

No. It's queer sex.

How old are the kids in the classroom?

14-18. They're like, 'How does this butt plug work? How do we do - like, how does this work?'

So, not a big story, if you ask me. They're HIGH SCHOOL kids. All the parents and the school higher-ups are fine with it. They're all progressive leftists. In fact, I'm all for it - I love me some dildos and butt plugs and lube. And they're not children as the misleading headline states. They're high school kids. They're probably already fucking each other in the ass!!!

But, O'Keefe deceptively edited earlier into the clip this photo:

Yes, it was from the same event, but this was the junior school. Butt plugs were not involved. But it is clearly designed to lead the ignorant right-wing news consumer to come away with the idea that young children, such as those pictured, were exposed to that.

The younger kids in the junior school did have "drag queen story hour" 


Again, I think it's fine and age appropriate to let kids know there's such a thing as alternate sexualities. To call this "grooming" is preposterous, and lessens the focus we should put on real child grooming. It's like when they call every inappropriate touch or bad date "rape", then what word do you use for a real violent rape?

So, in this case, FUCK YOU James O'Keefe for trying to ruin the life of this educator. Fortunately, the parents and school seem to be standing strongly behind the educator. But not right to harass the guy, or to open up this guy to harassment from crazies influenced by this "reporting".


Veritas also put up a second video, on generally the same subject matter, but this one I reluctantly agree with Veritas on.

A woman undercover reporter goes on a date with a school teacher who is beset by groups of misbehaving young ladies deliberately flashing their panties and pussies at him.


The target is Iman Rasti, Director of Writing Center; Middle School English Teacher; Seventh Grade Dean at Greens Farms Academy, another prestigious private school.

Like, one thing they [students] do these days, they sit down in front of me, they purposefully sit down somewhere in the class that is literally directly in front of me. They spread their legs wide open and that is just brutal. Brutal.

Every day there is different panties on: green, black, white and they [students] make sure -- it’s like they talk to each other, the three of them do that.

They open their legs, and I am teaching, and I see what I see. They make sure that the panties are positioned in a way that I actually see the thing [their pussies].

Ok,  they sit like this [demonstrates legs spread wide] in a short, short skirt, and you see the green panties, inserted in [their pussy slits, baring their pussy lips at me]. You see that.

Sitting in front of me in the chair, spreading legs so I can see. When they write, their nice, big beautiful, firm [pussy] lips. They make sure I see it.

It's unclear what age he's talking about. I think maybe 15, but potentially as young as 13-year-olds? Later on, he says "They are very naughty".

Now, having been a somewhat sexually promiscuous misbehaving adolescent myself back in the day, exploring my power over men, I can relate to those girls. I was initially reluctant to crucify this guy over his thoughts that he didn't act on. But as I kept listening to him, it was clear he was fantasizing strongly, and was telling this woman he barely knew all his innermost sexual thoughts. Not good!

And I don't think he even tries to curb this behaviour. Surely, even in today's day and age, there is some way to discipline these girls? (No, not that way, you PERVS!) But then, I know some teachers, and I know what a minefield of an environment they exist in and how difficult it is to impose any sort of discipline. If it was me, I'd get a female teacher or administrator involved, explain the situation, and come up with a strategy to deal with it. Mind you, that's still a minefield. With girls like that, won't they just claim they did nothing wrong and that teach was perving on them? And how would that go for him?

On second thoughts, perhaps I would just humiliate them in class: "Amanda, Grace, close your legs when you sit." And then just avert your eyes and say that every time you spot it, right in front of the whole class. I knew a male teacher in a girls' Catholic school who took that approach. The trick, he said, was not to look at it, but glance away and say, "Mary, button your blouse properly", or "Grace, roll your skirt back down."

Alternatively, how about bringing back the strap? Those girls like showing off their pussies? Have them to the front of the class, bend over the desk, skirt up, panties right down, and strap them on their bare bottoms. That'll learn 'em! Oh shit. Now there I go voicing out my own fantasies!

So, yes, I feel his plight. But the issue is he seemed to be really enjoying it, and when asked if he was tempted to have sex with them he said he was, but dared not do it because of the risk. He also said it is his "principle" not to fuck his students. But then admitted there are exceptions. When he was teaching in a college, he bragged that he had sex with many, many, many of his students (unlikely!). And just the creepy way he described these adolescent girls, and how fixated he was on their budding sexuality, it was just plain creepy, and I would be worried to trust young ladies with him. When the video was shown to his school higher ups, he was, correctly I thought, placed on suspension. Yes, men will have these fantasies about nubile young adolescents. Keep it in your heads (and in your pants), boys!

 

My overall verdict on Project Veritas is that they mostly do good work, and generally have a high degree of integrity, but do sensationalize things and are captured by their own ideology.  On the other hand, it used to be the mainstream media, like "60 Minutes", would do this kind of tough investigative journalism, but, alas, no more. As well, the mainstream media used to have strong standards of fact checking and multiple sourcing, but alas, that seems to be gone as well, but Project Veritas, at least, tries.

There was recently a Munk Debate in Toronto, Be it resolved, don't trust the mainstream media.

It was really good and the results were quite astounding. It was the biggest "swing" in the Munk Debates history. These were the debaters:

The Pro side was carried by now independent journalists (with a background in mainstream media), Matt Taibbi and Douglas Murray. The Con side was represented by author and journalist Malcolm Gladwell and Michelle Goldberg who works as an editor for the New York Times.

The audience was quite large, filling Roy Thompson Hall. Coming in, the crowd was somewhat evenly divided on the question. Coming out, they were heavily swayed by the "Pro" side (the "don't trust" side), swinging over to 2/3rds in favour, which is HUGE for a debate like this. The folks attending these events are mostly highly educated people, generally with a left-wing bias.

The Con side tried making the point that mainstream media has all these checks and balances. The Pro side said they used to have, but they don't apply those standards anymore. They said that the mainstream media, in search of greater commercial success, has followed the Fox News model of catering to only one side and feeding them only stories that would affirm their audience's prejudices. Now, leftists have claimed this (correctly) about Fox for years, but they don't seem to notice that the vast majority of the mainstream media has followed along in-kind, but slanted to only affirm the left's prejudices. This debate sort of convinced a bunch of left-leaning people of the truth of that.

Personally, I think the old mainstream media model is dead and cannot recover. I think the new model will be independent journalists, like Project Veritas, Matt Taibbi, Bary Wies, Glenn Greenwald, and so on. Some will cater to a constituency, some will be balanced, some will have great ethics and standards, and some will have poor ethics and standards, and the public will decide for themselves. I think Twitter will be an important part of this, where stories are broken, and the public can follow along with their preferred journalists. The new Community Notes feature of Twitter will add context to tweets in an even-handed way.

By the way, if you're not following the Twitter Files, you're missing a great show! Elon Musk opened up all of Twitter's historical internal documents to Matt Taibbi and Bary Weis to report on how they please. The only condition is that they break their stories on Twitter first. The first two installments are out. Very, very, enlightening, and confirming everything the right suspected about Twitter massively putting their thumb on the scale of political discourse.

The Twitter Files Part One - in which it is revealed that government and political parties made frequent requests to Twitter to have people banned, and Twitter acted on it, with a big bias in favour of Democrats. And how the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed on phony made-up grounds.

Twitter Files Supplemental - in which it is revealed that former FBI Chief Counsel James Baker, who was central to the misinformation surrounding Russiagate, was Chief Counsel at Twitter and hid documents from Matt and Bary that implicated the FBI. Elon subsequently fired him.

The Twitter Files Part Two - in which it is revealed that contrary to previous statements, including Congressional testimony, Twitter was indeed shadow-banning people (decreasing their reach significantly) on political grounds.

More parts to come!

33 comments:

  1. You really put yourself out there, thanks you for using your platform, it takes real courage. I'm not on twitter, facebook or any of the other pseudo media platforms. I don't need to agree with anyone !!!
    Am I missing the whole point ? disagree, discuss... you are wrong... I am wrong ... ?
    Love... kindness is good, Hate is bad. NO brothers ?
    come on man, we have wives, sisters, daughters. Be nice to girls. I know this is not politically correct...too bad. Women don't get to be hurt!!!

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  2. I generally take a dim view of sexual education in schools. These places often cannot even teach the kids how to read, write, calculate, or think critically. Why on Earth should anyone entrust them with providing kids and/or adolescents with a healthy knowledge of sexuality? Of course, this would actually force us to address the REAL elephant in the room: shitty parents.

    Guy #2 is the quintessential creep that winds up molesting dozens of students until he finally gets so careless he gets caught.

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    1. If it's with the parents' consent, I don't mind.

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  3. Project Veritas does constant out of context, deceptive, and many times outright false reporting. Their mantra is essentially is it fine for them to lie, deceive, and misrepresent since they believe their targets are doing it as well.

    For example that wall of shame they have if you look into it is almost completely filled with corrections and retractions on a specific detail but not that the story condemning them was actually false. Things like a correction stating "A previous version of this story incorrectly stated that the ACORN employee’s lawsuit was on grounds of defamation instead of invasion of privacy." The employee's suit was for invasion of privacy, the defamation case was by ACORN themselves one that Project Veritas paid a 100,000 settlement to dismiss. Not that they didn't do wrong, or even that the wrong that they are correcting didn't happen, but that they quoted the wrong suit in the article.

    I would suggest watching the Timbah.On.Toast video series on them. it is long and exhausted breakdown but when dealing with people like Project Veritas who look for any slight correction as a dismissal of all accusations it needed to be.

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    1. I think that was one of the only, or very few at any rate, settlements? But what ACORN did was horrible, and exposing it was unequivocally good.

      Don't be general, be specific. That video series seems to be an 8 hour ramble. Which particular video of Project Veritas did you think was the worst example of them being deceptive or taking something out of context? Can you please provide the link. Thanks.

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    2. If you want detail all you have to do is read the Wikipedia article where virtually every sentence has a link to an article that you can use to check the article's veracity. You will find that, in virtually every Project video, it turns out that the Veritas video is deliberately edited to mislead the gullible. You know, people like you.

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    3. Wikipedia is not a great source for anything remotely political, as left-leaning moderators tend to hijack those topics. The references they provide are to discredited "fact checking" organizations such as Snopes.

      I gave an example above where I believe they sowed confusion by conflating high schoolers and junior schoolers, but they did not outright lie or deceptively edit.

      You can do the same. Please give me the best example of a video of their's you believe was deceptively edited and I'll have a look.

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    4. You are saying “Don't be general, be specific” while also not being willing to look at the long-detailed breakdown about the situation. I agree that they are very long video but that is because of the specifics. If you want specifics when talking about an organization that has been acting for years it will take time. You call it a ramble but it has more actual investigative journalism than anything project veritas has done themselves.

      It seems like you want to focus on the ACORN investigation specifically. And yes, there was absolutely bad things that happened at ACORN but not even close to the bad that project veritas presented it as. If you don’t want to watch the entire series that is understandable but then watch “10 Years of Truth / Part 1” starting at the 47:51 time stamp since that is the specifics that you seem to be focusing on.
      https://youtu.be/8buQLy1dWD8?t=2871

      In general project veritas isn’t doing investigative journalism. They aren’t trying to find or report the truth. They going into situations and creating the story by manipulating and leading people into saying sound bites that they are want to then use for their political purposes. They do so by lying, emotionally manipulating, editing, and never showing any aspects that don’t reinforce the story that are authoring.

      You want the best example of them being deceptive or taking something out of context well a great example of that is specifically the acorn investigation and Juan Carlos. Same video at the 53:09 timestamp. They paint him as a child sex trafficker when it is shown he specifically was bringing law enforcement into it and attempting to stop them from doing what they said they were doing. There are records showing Juan Carlos making the reports to detectives to investigate what Project Veritas is projecting themselves to be. James O'Keefe settled for 100,000 of civil damages. Even on project veritas own webpage (lie #4 they admit that Juan Carlos was deceiving them and working with law enforcement. They just play that off as “The problem is that journalists, depending on first-hand reporting, cannot always tell when someone is working to deceive them.” But that doesn’t stop them from continuing to present Juan Carlos as a sex trafficker.

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    5. The settlement was for "invasion of privacy" and who cares, as I went over above.

      I was hoping you could relate, in your own words, the single worst thing in your mind that Project Veritas did. I reviewed (tediously!) the videos you referenced, and find nothing substantial there. Juan presented himself to them as one thing, and that was all they knew at the time. If he was clean, and lost his job regardless, that's his employer's fault. At any rate, nothing you've shown me would justify Project Veritas NOT exposing these corrupt organizations.

      You can do better. One more time, the worst thing they did, in your own words. Something where their target did no wrong, but PV "deceptively" edited the video to make it appear as though they did.

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    6. No. The worst thing they did in my words was falsely represent themselves as victims to people who wanted to genuinely help them and stop abuse, then use the heavily edited and secretly recorded footage to mischaracterize and misrepresent those people in dangerous and irresponsible ways for the purpose of profit and political grandstanding.

      You re fine with this it seems. You see no problem with people doing so. That speaks greatly to your character.

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    7. You see, this is why it's difficult to have a discussion with you. You mind-read intent and you insult my character. I could equally impugn your character referencing your support for people who flaunt the law to assist a purported pimp in trafficking girls. Do you see how that game works?

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  4. A few years back, Veritas posted an interview one of their people had with a Planned Parenthood employee. The PP employee admitted their income came from selling parts from late terms. While I favor later term abortions, I insist that they be over 25 years old. Bogey

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    1. Disgusting, but not unexpected. If you treat the life of the unborn with such scorn, why not sell their dead body parts?

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    2. This is, of course, a lie. In the Project Veritas video (contrary to the claims of anti-choice groups), the person from Planned Parenthouse being interviewed literally never says anything about Planned Parenthood selling fetal organs/tissue.

      The closest you get to that is that the person being interviewed does say that patients sometimes want to donate (not sell) tissue to scientific research. There are exactly two Planned Parenthood associates that do donate fetal tissue to registered centres that use that tissue to search for cures for various diseases. But, I guess, that medical research is a despicable act.

      Organizations that do provide tissue (mostly hospitals by the way) can have their costs reimbursed. There's a cost schedule, again set by the government regulations as part of the NIH act from the early 1990s, that organizations can use to claim for costs (about $60). Of the two Planned Parenthood associates, only one accepts reimbursements.

      So the idea that "their income came from selling parts from late terms" is a lie. Not that either of you care about actual truth because a juicy lie is better.

      I found this site that lists all the lies that you so willingly believed without once considering that you should check if they were actually, you know, true: https://oversight.house.gov/planned-parenthood-fact-v-fiction

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    3. I just looked into what you claim. I can't find the Project Veritas video referred to. Can you provide a link?

      I did find a series of videos on the topic in a similar style by David Daleiden. He was attempting a sting operation to get PP to sign an agreement to sell body parts. The PP director was quite enthusiastic to do it, but in the end never did (as it is illegal). The attitude of the subject was later demonstrated under oath and documented in emails.

      However, there is no question that fetal cells are useful and valuable, and that PP is compensated what they can get away with as costs to transfer them. Given that these materials are valuable, in high demand, and are being routinely harvested, it certainly creates a perverse incentive structure for illegal trafficking.

      But I do agree it is an overstatement by Bogey to say "their income" comes from that. A small part of their income does, with most coming from the taxpayer. However the Deleiden videos suggest that some PP directors would wish for more to come from selling body parts.

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    4. Let's be precise: Exactly one Planned Parenthood associate gets up to $60 of their costs covered when they provide fetal tissue to scientific research (one other Planned Parenthood associate provides pro bono). This isn't anywhere near to "a small part of their income" unless you mean "some of the costs of one Planned Parenthood associate are covered."

      The market for fetal tissue is either scientific research or life saving activities. Presumably this is all preferable to discarding the remains (to use the term that funeral directors use). The only way this would be nefarious would be if Planned Parenthood was actively soliciting women to have abortions without cause so that Planned Parenthood could improve their revenue stream. Do you have any evidence that has ever happened?

      Let's remember that these slanders are directed against people who are regularly threatened and assaulted (and have been murdered) because of one of the services they provide to women in distress (services that Canadians take for granted, thanks to a single payer health system). I think that they deserve a basic level of fairness.

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    5. Yes, "a small part". The tissues are "useful and valuable" - I said that. There does seem to be a cultural move to encourage abortion, have you not seen it?

      What we see from the earlier PP vids is that some PP centres do little to discourage abortion, will turn a blind eye to statutory rape, and will encourage teens to lie about their age so they can provide the service without informing parents.
      See
      https://youtu.be/-x4aRw57fDc
      https://youtu.be/uZMHJISI5yc

      My interpretation is over-zealous lefties trying to "help", and willing to break laws in the process.

      PP got it starts from a eugenics project by Margaret Sanger to lower the birth rate for blacks. They sure are succeeding!

      I condemn all violence and harassment, including those who harass pro-lifers and pro-life centres.

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    6. Oh, and for the record, I am for abortion being safe, legal, and rare at any point without requiring parental consent. That is my personal position. I realize that the fetus is a human life and we are killing essentially a human baby in the process.

      For the sake of getting along with my fellow man, I am willing to compromise and set limits on it. I consider first trimester for any cause acceptable, and after that only under exceptional circumstances. I would oppose a complete ban on abortion.

      I consider Roe to have been a horribly decided case by an activist SC that flaunted the law and was happy to see it overturned.

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  5. So, Julie, as you are well aware I used to be a complete, gold star lesbian but since then have come to the realisation that that label wasn't right for me and have since accepted my bisexuality.

    That said, in my formative years I was assured I was gay. In highschool, I was gay. When I was changing for gym, I was gay. When showering after, I was gay. You know what I didn't do when I saw my fully nude classmates? Lust and get horny over them.

    Call me crazy, but there is such a thing as having your morals overrule your pussy (or in this teachers case, his dick). My brain never let me lust in those moments because it was so fucking inappropriate and wrong. If I was a teacher seeing this behavior, I'd be speaking to the parents, not remaining silent and experiencing more of it.

    It's not a left or right thing, it's a matter of personal morals and values. I respected my classmates to the extent that they could be fully nude in front of me and I never ONCE experienced arousal due to it, my morals simply wouldn't let me. Get me the girl I crushed on, one on one, naked in my bedroom? I'd be soaking my panties. There is a time and place for everything and changerooms/schoolrooms are NOT the place for this shit.

    -Kasey

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    1. I don't blame him for his thoughts, I just think that if he's so obsessed that he feels the need to admit it all to a virtual stranger, he shouldn't be in a position of authority over children.

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  6. I guess I have to disagree with you for the first time. The teacher putting out this stuff to 14-18 year olds is just more indoctrination to make this stuff the norm and not let kids make these decisions on their own. I made my decisions but it wasn't normalized in a classroom without my parents consent. This should have been okayed by the parents. PERIOD........ firefighter Steve

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    1. I think the butt plug guy had, at least implicitly, the parents' consent. And I think those kids are old enough to be exposed to this information. So we'll agree to disagree on this one (rare for ts to disagree, I know).

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  7. First, of course, it's interesting that you support people being recorded without their consent or knowledge. Normally, we regard that as abhorrent and an invasion of privacy but, I guess, Trump supporters have a different set of values than "lefties."

    So let's talk about the actual facts rather than blindly repeating Project Veritas PR.

    Their first operation was against Planned Parenthood where their team posed as a pregnant 15-year old. As part of that operation they deliberately edited out of their video where the counsellers they recorded told the prject plant that she should, before anything else, tell her parents. Because, you know, this is the kind of "truth telling" conservatives support. But, I guess, if you're a Trump supporter you wouldn't call this "a blatant lie."

    So let's move on to one of the examples you mention: ACORN. The project team did not, in fact, dress as a pimp and a prostitute for the ACORN interviews (there's video of the team entering the facility and they're dressed very conservatively). If you go back and look at the video and actually pay attention you'll notice that O'Keefe never actually says he dressed that way for the inteview -- he just implies it. But, of course, you didn't notice that, probably because you never actually watched the video and just believed ACORN's PR (or you did watch it and didn't notice because you're stupid and gullible -- take your pick). But, I guess, that's not "a blatant lie" that they've never been caught in.

    In the end, the State of California, the GAO, and the Brooklyn DA all separately investigated ACORN and found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing (at worst, some loose management of low-level employees -- you know, the ones that Project got to talk on camera and implied they were important ACORN staff). O'Keefe ended up paying $100,000 to the employees that he defamed (so much for never being sued or losing...but you never checked that, either, did you?). O'Keefe also apologized for "any pain suffered by [the ACORN employee on camera] or his family."

    Please, please, please: Tell me again how they've "never been caught in a blatant lie."

    Rather than just swallow what ever right-wing/Trumpian story that you wish was true why not -- just once -- do some research to check accuracy? For example, just reading the Wikipedia article on Project Veritas and checking even some of the attributions that the article provides for every claim made would be a good start.

    But that would required (a) work and (b) thinking for yourself. It's much easier to just to swallow what you're told to.

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    1. Investigative journalism like this has a strong history. If it's the only way to uncover a crime or get to the truth, and is legal, yes I support it.

      The first video you refer to was done when he was a university kid before PV was formed. I'll give him a bit of slack. And while perhaps the abortionist suggested it, she did not in fact insist on it, and the videos show them aiding in covering up statutory rape and seeking abortion services underage, counselling the girl to lie about her age. If what you took away from it was the one deceptive edit (and I agree with you on that if true), your priorities seems misplaced.
      Here are the videos for those interested.
      https://youtu.be/-x4aRw57fDc
      https://youtu.be/uZMHJISI5yc

      Re the ACORN videos. Check my post. Check the place where I show O'Keefe in the pimp outfit. Read my caption. It was there all along, not newly added for you. So who's the stupid one? Oh no! It looks like YOU are.

      Regarding being sued, again, check my wording. I never said they had no judgments or settlements against them, just that few of the lawsuits succeeded. What you refer to was a settlement. According to O'Keefe:
      "After three years of fighting this suit, we settled for $100,000. It would have cost us five times as much to continue to fight California's dubiously constitutional Invasion of Privacy Act. This law seems designed to protect the powerful from video exposure." He goes over that action in detail on his website at https://www.projectveritas.com/news/settling-acorn-lawsuit/

      And again, that out of the whole ACORN thing you nitpick on these things rather than focussing on the true poor behaviour exposed shows a lot about you. Even left wing Cali AG Jerry Brown agrees it was bad. From the report he issued.

      "ACORN consisted of a tangle of separate affiliate organizations whose activities and management were confusingly intertwined. ACORN in California was disorganized and very poorly managed. It failed to recruit, train, and monitor its employees to ensure compliance with California law.

      The recordings establish ACORN employees across the country were willing to discuss with O’Keefe and Giles their plan to conduct a prostitution business, and a few even made suggestions for disguising profits and avoiding detection by law enforcement agencies. The most offensive conversations occurred outside California.

      Although highly inappropriate, the evidence does not show that the ACORN employees in California violated state criminal laws in connection with their conversations with O’Keefe and Giles."

      In other words, the law was broken, just not in California.

      Suggest you get your priorities straight.

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  8. I was impressed with what little I had read on the Munk Debate. Good on you for highlighting it here. It's conclusion is a message that needs to be heard more widely..... - Frank

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    1. It was entertaining. The most entertaining part was how the audience flipped when they heard the non-existent "defense".

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  9. Julie,
    I’ll have to disagree with you.

    First, why do drag queens need to be seen by grade school children?

    Second, Project Veritas usually post the full recording online, so if they say something was shown to k-5 kids, I’ll believe them. They’ve proven themselves to be much more reliable than the leftists, which even buy fake dossiers from Russia.

    Third, I think it’s better if we get high school kids to wait, so I don’t see the need for these things. It’s far outside the normal sex education.

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    1. I don't disagree with you too much.

      Drag queens and children is not good.

      Veritas never claimed butt plugs were shown to the young children, they just conflated the two stories in - what I consider to be - a somewhat misleading way. Though I agree their integrity is quite high in general.

      I'm for more sexEd for high school kids, even butt plugs!

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  10. I'm on your side with the two recent stories: fact is, over the past 40 years both the left and the right (right primarily from the "Christian Conservative" group, left from what used to be called the radical feminist group but now basically IS feminism having taken over the movement) have demonized sex, esp heterosexual sex and esp any sexual desires by or for teenage girls or boys. Teens have become "children" to many/most in the larger US culture largely based on pop science misunderstandings of brain development, but also due to things like fact we expect so little of our teens esp as compared to what teens have done normally in past societies all over Earth and all across time. There's also elements of sexual jealousy, esp among older women and some men (which explains why the US STILL hasn't decriminalized prostitution in 99.99 percent of it area, though some prosecutors choose not to prosecute it) and anyway all this leads to insanity like calling a man (of any age really) looking at a 16 or 17 year old girl (who looks older, say 20ish) and calling him a pedophile, or girls on Instagram calling other girls victims because boyfriend or sex partner was 2 years older (yes, this does happen). But the worst victims are the kids themselves as ANY sex education beyond strictly some super clinical "birds and bees" lecture (without any 'naughty' illustrations even) is frowned on, kids are prosecuted for 'sexting', and, strikingly, while teen girls are widely considered 'more mature' than boys in pretty much every other endeavor esp in school, when it comes to sex it's all the fault and responsibility of those evil demonic teen boys/Lotharios who are usually treated as if they are 40 year old pickup artists (The SLIMY TYPE with no morals or ethics) with lots of experience, and who just want to get a girl or girls 'in trouble' and after breaking their fragile hearts (and hence ruining the perfectly angelic girls for other men) will gladly disappear.
    And let's not get started on "Enthusiastic Consent" or how every sex act without perfect (and totally continuous) consent is raaaaaaype.

    Yeah, the teens aren't being empowered by any of this stuff. At a time when sex has never been safer, and accidental pregnancy far less likely to occur than any other time in history, teens are being taught to fear sex, to fear each other, to "police" each others relationships (and with expanded and open ended definitions of both physical and sexual abuse at that) , that any confusion about feelings (am I bi? Am I gay? Am I straight?) might be a sign you need to 'change' your sex with puberty blockers or permanently non-reversible surgeries, that young motherhood or fatherhood is the worst thing in the world, that women can never recover from rape (or even just regretted sex) that, if you are a young woman, you are NEVER responsible for sexual mistakes or choices, and etc, etc.

    TLDR? Well, this 'groomer' panic and the ludicrous idea that HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS *with* the permission and knowledge of their parents are somehow harmed by knowing about sex toys or handling them or seeing their use demonstrated is the result of 40 , almost 50 years backlash against the sexual revolution. And both sides in the "culture war" are incentivized to keep up the fight. Yes, the left does have some 'exploitable' holes in their culture war armor. The fact that they try to pass off drugging or mutilating in some cases pre-adolescent children in the name of 'gender affirming' care is one of them. Or the actual sexualized drag shows that are some times put on involving little children. Yet, the same person who would defend that, would fully join the Right in condemning the College Senior who is dating the High School Senior. Veritas is not immune to the mind virus, nor the temptation to 'cash in' on this stuff. Plus, it's hard for the left to 'counterattack' as the real 'libertarian' left esp the real leftwing sex positive crowd is practically dead.

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    1. Very insightful and very well said. Even a naive 16-year-old (a.k.a. me) knows the sexual power they wield over men. It's ridiculous the way it's played out.

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  11. Nuanced and balanced as I've come to expect from you, Julie. Heck, you even got relatively few haters and the ones you did get were MOSTLY polite enough. Maybe it's the Holiday season.

    For Veritas: Well, the "official" stance on Veritas from the "MSM" is that they always lie and have nothing of any value to say anyway. They never mention things like Verita's libel suit against the NYT or that Veritas has won the vast vast majority of court cases, but instead use its very few losses/settlements (surprisingly none big enough to destroy it if it was really so inept at what it does) to try and discredit it, and they often don't go into any details about that.

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    1. Yeah, the outrage against Veritas in general can only be explained by the brainwashing. Sure, be critical of the stories where they overplay their hand (as I have been, above), and be grateful when they break stuff that is truly awful.

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