She is a professional woman with a science and medical background as a primary care provider. She is also an avid Yoga practitioner.
It so happens that she's also a very strict FLR wife who insists that her husband practice the Taoist tradition of semen retention.
I introduced semen retention to my husband, and he also has an ejaculation schedule which is enforced by consequences that he agreed to.She argues convincingly that there are many great health and relationship benefits to the practice.
I love her blog name, Yoga Girl. It conjures images of a strong, fit, attractive, centered woman, who in this case brooks no disobedience from her stay-at-home husband.
To get you interested in going over to her blog, I will quote some choice passages (slightly edited for continuity out of their original context).
She says,
I decided on one ejaculation every 5-7 days. Thanks to the application of consequences for unauthorized ejaculation he has learned restraint and waits for me to give him the release command which once given produces a large amount of ejaculate immediately every time. After riding him daily for 5-7 days for extended periods in his pre-climax state (the moment just before ejaculation), he's more than a little anxious, and I'm kind of eager to watch his release. It's a special day all around. Now that he’s trained, retaining his semen, and maintaining sustained thrusting, I typically enjoy at least nine orgasms in intercourse and about 50-100 orgasms before he has his special day. It’s so much more intense having intercourse with a man that's writhing on the brink in excruciating pleasure beneath me.
At this point we need to discuss the "brink". You're on your bull ride cranking out those orgasms which for me tonight ratcheted up to 18 full and powerful orgasms. Thank you, hubby! Now what do you do with the quivering whimpering mass of man lying between your thighs in excruciating pleasure on the brink. It's over for him and he's still humping the air like something might happen but it's just not. Unfortunately, ejaculation is still 5-7 days away for him. You need to take solace in the fact that the orgasm he's going to have days from now will be far more mind blowing than the one you could give him now. Women want so much to please their man, but you need to realize that this delay is the best thing for his health and the long term passion in your relationship.In addition to the health benefits for him, she speaks to the benefits in obedience that such a regime brings about:
This transition from thrusting and stopping without completion can be a big hump to get over for him. I don’t mean to be graphic here, but this is the most effective way I’ve found to deal with this transition. I’m almost always on top riding the bull until I’m almost to orgasm, and when I’m on the brink, I jump off onto his face, and he licks me to climax. And rinse and repeat about 9 more times ... sometimes 18. On the last time, after my orgasm, Instead of getting up and walking all ten feet to the bathroom to pee, I use the "Open" command and just use the convenience that’s already between my thighs, and have him hold it in his mouth until he cools off losing his erection. Meanwhile, while he's holding it in his mouth, I can use the bathroom and get dressed with no annoying begging and then give him permission to spit it out as I'm walking out of his room.
Tell him what chores need to be completed before ejaculation. My husband may be on a 5-7 day schedule, but that is contingent upon his behavior, and certain things getting done. If he's had an instance of poor behavior, his 7 day schedule just became 8 or 9 days. Would you like to try for 10? It corrects bad behavior instantly.
For example let's take a typical experience that most couples encounter. This happened today. We're having a discussion in the car, and he raises his voice. I don't like that, in fact I hate it. I simply calmly said "You've just been bumped a day," meaning his ejaculation day on Sunday is no longer tomorrow, it's on Monday. The drive to ejaculate is so strong in a male, it was less than ten minutes before he apologized, and asked if I might reconsider as he has been looking forward to his release all week. I said we'll see how the rest of the day goes. He doesn't have to apologize either. He could just wait until Monday. But he does what he can to repair it, and he hopes he's back on track for ejaculation tomorrow. We'll see, I haven't decided yet. Does an intercourse session take place if the kitchen is dirty? Or if the kitchen is clean and orderly 99% of the time? Answer not required. A clean kitchen does not guarantee a session will happen, but a dirty one 100% guarantees a session won't happen.
Your opinion will be highly valued, and your words will be closely listened to. Indeed, once my husband approaches 10 days without ejaculation with daily intercourse sessions, everything is "Yes, mam." No, mam." And he will even ask for permission to speak if it's about a subject we may have disagreement about. Your opinion will move from just being your opinion to law. I don't require these things at all from him, there are no rules issued by me. This former alpha male just adapts these behaviors as his biology changes.She speaks about how to enforce the regime.
The only authorized ejaculation in our relationship follows the words coming from my lips: "You may release your load now." He lives to hear these words, and ejaculation always follows on the last syllable of that sentence. He will do anything to hear them. But those words won't mean anything if the schedule you set for his ejaculation isn't enforced. There's no getting around this. Males have such a strong evolutionary built in desire to plant their seed. They'll just do it and apologize afterward. It's a sincere apology, but it doesn't get my schedule followed does it? I believe he really means it, but it doesn't solve the problem. When hormones take over, they can't help themselves. When my husband's passion has pushed him to the brink after thrusting me to 18 orgasms, the only thing I've found that works to keep him from teetering over the edge is something that's so horrible that awaits on the other side of his ejaculation that he wouldn't even consider violating the sacred ejaculation schedule. Violating the schedule should be almost as serious to you as him sleeping with another woman.
The consequences that you decide on must be so completely aversive to the subject, he will do anything to avoid them. It doesn't bother me to deliver the punishment because I know what I'm doing is for his own good. I administer it with a firm tone and make sure that it is severe, but I don't do this out of anger. It's in a loving manner but fierce.
It's likely that he'll be aroused by being punished by you. The aversive stimulus must overwhelm the "punishment at a women's hands reward" that he just earned by violating your schedule. My husband wants no part of his aversive stimulus, and it's why he hasn't touched himself in close to a year. He has gone from masturbating 30-60 times a month to masturbating 0 times a month. That's all I require from an aversive stimulus.Yoga Girl is coy on specifying the aversive consequences, as she feels it is up to each woman to select what's best in this regard for herself, taking her own male into account. But in the comments section she does give some more prescriptive advice.
Averse punishment need not be harsh. An aversive stimulus could be as simple as bumping his ejaculation day 2 days later than it otherwise would've been. The threat of bumping my husband's ejaculation day has a huge impact on his behavior.
For an infraction of the schedule I could implement an 8:00 bedtime for a week or whatever time and length I choose that would be aversive. The threat of a bedtime terrifies my husband so it works. An 8:00 bedtime is aversive in that it removes all stimulus, and gives him time to reflect on what he's done and how committed he is to following his wife's wishes. Before the wife goes to bed, she should check in with him and ask him to explain why he now has a bedtime. My husband finds one day with an early bedtime akin to Chinese water torture and is very aversive. It keeps him very alert during intercourse about warning me about any spill that may arise. He actually would prefer a whipping with a leather strap than an early bedtime.
Corner time can also be effective. Turning a chair facing the corner and having him sit there for an hour. The wife should check with him periodically during this time out and have him explain why he has a time out.
Nose against the wall. The wife can have him stand with his nose against the wall with a quarter between his nose and the wall for fifteen minutes. If the quarter falls, the time is increased. It's pretty aversive.
Putting a man on an allowance for a period of time is also aversive. If his behavior is compliant, spending limits go up. If he's not, spending limits get tighter.
Whether he has permission to go out with friends should be determined by compliance with the ejaculation schedule.
Accidents happen, but I really don't like them as it wrecks all the work we've done in retaining. I can probably count on one hand the number of accidents he's had in the past year.And, while Yoga Girl does not stress it in relationship to his retention training, we do find out buried in the comments that she is not averse to applying additional discipline on the side:
I find that firm discipline helps my husband focus on his role as well which is of course to be a loving and supportive husband. I have used a brush, but more commonly use the 16" drilled wood paddle, and the 20" leather three tailed strap which are also very effective in helping him align his priorities.A truly strong FLR wife and a truly pussy whipped mate. Please go and visit her blog and leave a nice comment for her. FLR101.
By coincidence, as I was getting ready to write this article, it just so happened I got a story submitted to me by a blog follower on the topic of Yoga Girl.
His name is michael, and he also goes by the name "Proud Servant". You may email him at proudservant4women at gmail.
Here is his wonderful little story inspired by a mixture of myself and Yoga Girl.
An Exercise in Humility
When I acknowledged to Strict Julie that I'm over 65 and I frequently masturbate to her blog she replied, "It excites me to know a man your age is still jerking off to my stuff!!!"I was very gratified to know I'd excited her.
Then she added, "You should go ask your Doctor's permission, though ;-)".
Yikes! I hadn’t expected that. My immediate reaction was resistance, even defiance. She couldn't make me! She only knew me as a nearly-anonymous commenter on her blog, so I didn't have to. There would be no consequences. But soon my desire to please Strict Julie won out, and I resolved that I would do as she said. I am a submissive man, after all, and I love to please women. Especially dominant women. And Strict Julie had provided me with countless hours of happy stroke-time, so it seemed only fair, even fitting, that I be willing to humiliate myself for her amusement.
Gulp. Had I realized how much humiliation would be involved I might not have gone through with it. But I'm glad I did.
As it happened, I had my annual physical exam with Dr. Gibson the very next week. I've been seeing Dr. Yvonne Gibson for eight years. She's probed, diagnosed, prescribed, explained, and helped me be a healthier man. I really appreciate her skill and dedication. Dr. Gibson exudes confidence when she speaks, when she makes eye contact, and in the way she moves. She's an attractive woman, in her mid-thirties, I’d guess, and I always give her my full attention when I'm in her presence.
I was nervous when I arrived at the clinic. I hadn't rehearsed, but I was resolved. The nurse took my height and weight and led me into the exam room, where she took my blood pressure. A bit higher than last time. I knew what that was about. Fortunately, my blood pressure is generally low (in a good way), so my nervous energy didn't lead to any concerns.
The nurse gave me an exam gown and left the room. I changed and waited. And waited, it seemed like a long time. I thought I could hear my heart beating. Then there was a knock on the door and Dr. Gibson announced herself. I acknowledged her and reflexively sat up straighter. Dr. Gibson entered, followed by a younger woman who also wore a lab coat. Dr. Gibson introduced her as Ms. Slater, a medical student. Dr. Gibson explained that Ms. Slater was shadowing her as part of her education. Did I give permission for Ms. Slater to be present during my exam? Of course I did. I was always quite compliant with Dr. Gibson. It's just my natural reaction to confident, assertive women.
The exam started routinely. When Dr. Gibson looked in my ears, eyes, and mouth, Ms. Slater stood up and watched closely. I felt like I was being probed by both women. I gave it up for them, opening wider, following directions intently. When it was time to listen to my heart and breath Dr. Gibson asked if it was all right for Ms. Slater to listen, too. I nodded. So they both leaned in, their stethoscopes on my chest, on my back, listening closely. In such close proximity I felt awash in their sexual energy. I got just the slightest glimpse of Ms. Slater's cleavage and imagined nuzzling her there. I was starting to get aroused. This wasn't good.
Dr. Gibson put on gloves and had me stand up. Time for the testicle exam. She had me lift the gown and then she nonchalantly held my somewhat-engorged penis out of the way with one hand while she felt my balls for lumps with the other. Ms. Slater stared, intent on getting full value out of her day beside Dr. Gibson.
"Do you examine yourself this way?" Dr. Gibson asked me.
"yes...", my voice was weak.
"How often?"
"Ummm, about once a month?" I exaggerated.
"That's not enough. For best results you should examine your testicles every week. I suggest you pick a day of the week and make it part of your routine when you shower."
"Yes, Dr. Gibson. Thank you." If only she would do the weekly exam! Sigh.
Dr. Gibson let go of my penis, and I was aware that it didn't go back to just hanging down. Her little touch-and-talk had gotten me more aroused. I could feel my cockhead pressing lightly against the gown. I wished I could detach from my body and float away somehow.
Dr. Gibson consulted her tablet and announced that I was due for a digital rectal exam. I smiled weakly, turned, and bent over the exam table. The gown fell away, exposing me completely, I'm sure.
It was Ms. Slater who spoke next. She told Dr. Gibson that she hadn't gotten much practice at rectal exams in medical school, and asked if she could perform this one. To build her confidence, she said. She gave quite the little sales pitch. Dr. Gibson was sympathetic, but pointed out that since Ms. Slater didn’t have her MD degree any exam she conducted could not be part of the official record. But she offered an alternative. She asked if I'd let Ms. Slater conduct an exam, just for practice, to be followed by her official exam. I agreed, of course. I adore confident women, and I want there to be more of them in the world. I spread my legs a bit as a gesture of acquiescence.
So I got two rectal exams for the price of one. Ms. Slater was tentative at first, then a bit rough, and it seemed she took a long time. She found my prostrate all right, and I felt my erection grow. She pressed on it repeatedly, and rubbed across it, back and forth and around, and I swelled with every movement. Eventually I shifted my hips just to free my very hard cock from the weight of my torso. This brought a mild admonishment from Dr. Gibson.
"When you move it makes it harder for Ms. Slater to examine you. Can you hold still, hmm?" When she said, "makes it harder" I had to stifle a giggle. But I did hold still.
"Thank you," said Ms. Slater. "Now just bear with me while I find your prostate again." And then she repeated her exam, complete with all the probing she'd done the first time. I lay still and visualized my anal sphincter opening wide. My humble contribution to women’s advancement.
Eventually Ms. Slater withdrew her gloved hand and Dr. Gibson entered with hers. She was quick and precise, in and out in just a few seconds. She announced that my prostate was in fine shape. And well-stimulated, I thought to myself. Dr. Gibson stripped off her gloves and handed me a large wad of toilet paper to wipe myself. I always hate this part of the exam. I didn't know if they'd encountered any fecal matter, and even if they hadn't I had a mess of lube back there. I didn’t want that in my underwear, so I turned sideways and wiped myself, then dropped the toilet paper in the trash without looking at it. This part is humiliating every time, but especially so as I tried to hide my erection.
I eased myself gingerly onto the exam table, closing the gown behind me. I bent forward slightly, but still my erection poked up against the gown. I wanted to be done, but I knew the hardest part lay ahead.
"So, you're in good health, as usual," said Dr. Gibson. "Do you have any questions or concerns?"
Oh, Lord, that one tumbled around in my brain for a while. Yes, I had a question, but it wasn't really mine. I was just carrying it for Strict Julie. I looked up at Dr. Gibson, knowing I had to ask, but not yet ready to. Dr. Gibson met my eye with a steady, inquiring look. She really did want to hear my question, and address my concern. Such compassion. I love that woman. Ms. Slater bore witness.
I drew a quick breath, then another. "I, umm..." I couldn't get it out.
Dr. Gibson gave encouragement. "Yes?"
Another full breath, and then I plunged ahead, into the dead silence in the room. "Do I have your … permission…" That word was hard, and the next was harder. I barely got it out. "…to masturbate?"
There was an explosion of sound as Ms. Slater jumped up, knocking her chair over. She retreated to the far wall of the small exam room, one hand at her heart and the other held out in the "stop" sign, as if to hold me back. "No!" she fairly shouted. "Don't you dare!"
Oh, shit! She thought I was asking permission to masturbate then and there, to relieve my obvious erection. I turned fifty shades of red. I shook my head "no", but I couldn’t manage speech. Ms. Slater turned to Dr. Gibson, close to tears, and said, "I can't be with this." She emphasized "this" by shaking her outstretched hand at me, as though shooing away an annoying animal. Dr. Gibson just nodded. Ms. Slater shot me a look of disgust and horror and made a quick exit, closing the door loudly behind her.
"I'm so sorry," I offered to Dr. Gibson. "I didn't mean now. I meant, in general."
"I see," said Dr. Gibson. "Well, your timing wasn't good. I can see why Ms. Slater misunderstood you, since you were aroused. Do you understand that?"
"Yes. I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to upset her. Or you."
"I'm not upset. But I am curious. Why are you asking my permission to masturbate?"
Oog. I couldn't exactly tell her the truth, that a woman I didn't know had told me to. Fortunately, Strict Julie hadn't told me to go into any detail, so I was on my own as to reason. "Well, I just want to be careful, at my age. Am I in good enough health to masturbate? Are there any risks?"
Dr. Gibson assured me that I was in good enough health, and that it was safe for me to occasionally masturbate to orgasm. She emphasized the word "occasionally", and told me that excessive ejaculation was definitely bad for a man’s health, as it drained his life energy and weakened his immune system. At my age, that was the primary risk of masturbating.
Dr. Gibson spoke at some length about the benefits of semen retention, as she called it. She spoke with great conviction, and I listened intently. Eventually she asked if I had any questions.
"How often is it safe for me to masturbate? For my health, that is."
"It's not masturbation that’s the problem, per se. You can masturbate frequently, but you should limit how often you ejaculate. At your age, I recommend ejaculating once every two or three months. And less frequently as you get older." Dr. Gibson was matter-of-fact, with no discomfort at all. I found her confidence reassuring, and felt that I would be all right whatever was said. At the same time there was no erotic edge for me at all, and I was sure I had completely lost my erection. Which was a relief.
"Are you able to masturbate without ejaculating? I only ask because many men seem unable to control their urges."
"Yes, I can. I have." I felt calm, and would have submissively answered every question she had about my masturbation habit.
"Good for you, that's a good sign. Many men are very attached to ejaculating, to their own detriment. Now one more thing. You asked my permission to masturbate, but it's not really my place to give or withhold permission. You have my approval, as your doctor. It's safe, medically, with the caveat about ejaculating. But male ejaculation has social, as well as medical, effects. So the question of permission belongs more appropriately in the context of any intimate relationship you're in. I strongly recommend you defer to any intimate partner in this matter." She spoke slowly and made forceful eye contact. "Do you understand?"
"Yes, Dr. Gibson." I dropped my eyes.
A few moments of silence, and then the exam was over. I thanked Dr. Gibson. I told her I would like to apologize to Ms. Slater. She said it was up to Ms. Slater whether she wanted to see me again or not. Then she set the chair back upright and walked out, on to her next patient. I got dressed, feeling rather deflated. As I walked back through the clinic I looked around for Ms. Slater, but she wasn't in sight. The nurse gave me the evil eye as I passed by.
At home I made myself a cup of tea and thought it all through. I was pleased that I'd carried through on Strict Julie's assignment. It had been worse than I'd expected, far worse. But it was worth it. I had been a loyal blog reader, and I'd repaid, to some extent, all the pleasure that she'd given me over the years. And I thought over what Dr. Gibson had told me, about not ejaculating. Retaining my semen, that's how she put it. I hadn't heard of this before, but it did make sense. When I ejaculated I always felt a big drop in energy. I'd often fallen asleep, and even if awake I was moribund. Did ejaculation really drain my life energy away? It seemed entirely plausible.
That evening I visited Strict Julie's blog, as I do every few days. She didn't have a new post, so I scanned through the blog list on the right side. I have a few favorites there (thanks, Strict Julie!), but none of them had new posts, either. Then I noticed a blog I hadn't seen before, FLR 101. I checked it out. It was written by a woman for women, but it didn't say it was off-limits to men, so I read on. It was well-written, with conviction and lots of detail, and even research. It was about how the author, who went by Yoga Girl, had transformed her marriage by taking control of her husband's ejaculations. She went into great detail about the importance of reducing the frequency of male ejaculation. This was completely in synch with what Dr. Gibson had told me just a few hours ago. There was a whole lot more, about how controlling her husband's ejaculations had transformed their marriage, along with many intimate details about their much-improved sex life. Dr. Gibson didn't go into that, of course. But it was a very much the same material, maybe even the same voice. And Yoga Girl wrote "I'm a professional woman with a science and medical background as a primary care provider." That sounds a whole lot like a physician.
Was Dr. Yvonne Gibson also Yoga Girl? The parallels were striking. But really, that would be too much of a coincidence. Wouldn't it?
I finished my tea and briefly considered moving on to other sexually-explicit sites I've got bookmarked. They had been a reliable aid for getting it up and getting off. But they just didn’t appeal. Something had shifted for me. I wanted to read and think and not ejaculate, and that was enough.
I think orgasm denial and retention is totally hot and key to FLR.
ReplyDeleteI love this concept : have experienced it and think women should practise it more!
Charles.
It is the ultimate control over a male!
DeleteOrgasm denial has certainly improved my relationship with my wife, making me more attentive to her needs (she gets at least 3 times more orgasms than me), and of course I enjoy her control. This is without the need for a chastity device. Unauthorized orgasms result in hard hairbrush spanking (and that hurts).
ReplyDeleteHowever anything more than 1 week would be pushing things. It would result in inattention, or "testosterone poisoning" which could issues at work. There is also a lot of research that infrequent male orgasms can increase the risk of prostate cancer. That's where ruined orgasms can come into play, allowing a cumming for good prostate health, but limited excitement for naughty boys.
Thank you for your point of view on this!
Delete"There is also a lot of research that infrequent male orgasms can increase the risk of prostate cancer."
DeleteBut Yoga Girl in another post argues the opposite! That blue balls (epididymal hypertension, if you want to get all fancy) PREVENTS prostrate cancer. It doesn't. We do not know what causes testicular or prostrate cancers. Whet we do know is that if you already have testicular or prostrate cancer, a symptom is not able to get your rocks off. If you still have a dose blue balls after a couple of days - see a doctor! Full, complete orgasms are good, for men - and women!
A.J.
I have to agree with the commenter on this one. I can understand orgasm denial having sexual benefits or benefiting the woman's level of control in an FLR. But, health benefits? I've seen several studies supporting an inverse relationship between the number of orgasms and prostate cancer.
Delete"But Yoga Girl in another post argues the opposite! That blue balls (epididymal hypertension, if you want to get all fancy) PREVENTS prostrate cancer."
DeleteWhat?! I never said this. If you experience blue balls, please ejaculate if it doesn't subside.
Yoga Girl:
DeleteMaybe not directly, but you referenced a 2009 study that stated frequent masturbation by men in their 20-30s increased their risk of prostate cancer by a whopping 79% by age 60, then concluded, "Sexual intercourse did not affect prostate cancer risk. But frequent masturbation did..."
You are implying frequent masturbation is a cause of prostate cancer, when there is no medical consensus on any cause, with guesses that it may be a function of your DNA.
As for your comment, "The medical research available all has to be taken with a grain of salt too"? - absolutely correct! Totally agree with you. I remember an interview of Alfred Kinsey years after his study made the best-seller lists. He was appalled. Said his book/research was meant for professional medical people to give them a better understanding of human sexuality, and NOT for the general public that would read all kinds of nonsense into it.
"Maybe not directly, but you referenced a 2009 study that stated frequent masturbation by men in their 20-30s increased their risk of prostate cancer by a whopping 79% by age 60, then concluded, "Sexual intercourse did not affect prostate cancer risk. But frequent masturbation did..."
DeleteI'm not sure what this had to do with the blue balls that you referred to initially ....and that's a quote from the article not my words
"You are implying frequent masturbation is a cause of prostate cancer, when there is no medical consensus on any cause, with guesses that it may be a function of your DNA."
I didn't imply that. The study did for men in that younger age group. I presented two studies that conflicted with each other which was my point. There is no medical consensus. Again, I'm not sure what blue balls (testicular discomfort from prolonged arousal) has to do with masturbation and prostate cancer. What I found interesting was that sexual intercourse (The union of lingam and yoni) had no effect on cancer risk but masturbation did. Interesting. These are the conclusions or inferences of the study, not mine.
"I have to agree with the commenter on this one. I can understand orgasm denial having sexual benefits or benefiting the woman's level of control in an FLR. But, health benefits? "
DeleteYes, there is support for semen retention having health benefits.
A research published by the US National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health found that after 7 days of not ejaculating, men’s testosterone levels reached 145.7% of the baseline.
"I've seen several studies supporting an inverse relationship between the number of orgasms and prostate cancer."
Yes, probably on my blog. ;-)
Just read the first lines of Proud Servant and immediately it got me over. The first few lines suggest possibilities of humiliations that move the belly. A new writer? Read more ...
ReplyDeleteTsk tsk. Cumming while reading the "no cumming" blog post? Really? ;-)
DeleteNooo ... Not at all ... I mean ... there is a misunderstanding ... I wanted to say that the first lines of this story made something stand in me, inside my belly, Because of the subject matter. But there was no emission of sperm.
DeleteWhen it comes to a text written under the patronage of strictjulie and yoga girl, one is very careful to stay moderate.
The moderation of the author is just what I liked. He is very sensitive to what is suggested. Julie suggests to him to go ask this question absolutely humiliating to his doctor and this suggestion resounds with happiness in him.
I imagine asking my yogadoc what she advises me not about masturbation but ejaculation. In terms of production. I'm sure she would take a cunning pleasure in encouraging me to make a monthly donation to the sperm bank rather than misleading it.
The progress of waiting, examinations and final humiliation is described with care; At one point we think of a big baby that we would like to have on our knees to give him sucking with a finger deeply embedded in his ass. An idea of depth. Deep contentment. Deep penetration. Deep satiety. Everything seems to end up in the clouds of stored sperm.
Too bad we can not see more the too sensitive Miss Slater, which I associate rather with yoga girl. Mrs. Gibson can only be the unsurpassable Julie! ("I'm not upset. But I am curious")
And pity that Mrs. Gibson does not have the curiosity to inquire about the contents of the masturbatory phantasies of his patient.
Miss slater / yoga girl: a wood louse!
Miss Gibson / Julie: martini with onion preserved in vinegar !! Preserved in vinegar!
Proud Servant is in trouble !!
Perhaps an "alternate ending" is needed.
DeleteThank you, Strict Julie, for publishing my story here in your blog. I am honored by have my writing presented along with yours, which has given me so many hours of happy stroking. And now with less spurting. :)
DeleteSterngoat, I am glad my writing moved you. You did understand my approach, wanting to be moderate in my approach to this very sensitive subject, and not do anything to upset the professional atmosphere of the medical clinic. And you apply your own understanding and interpretation, which is fine. Thanks for your comment.
You are welcome Michael. Let us know about your experiment under yoga girl.
DeleteSterngoat,
DeleteI'm sorry to disillusion you, but I feel I must point out that I don't know for a fact that my doctor and Yoga Girl are the same person. And I'm not going to try to find out. If I asked my doctor, I'd be asking her if she's in fact that woman who's written so many intimate details about her marriage. And that's not a fit topic between a doctor and a patient. Similarly, if I asked Yoga Girl if she's my doctor, I'd be asking her to reveal her real-world identity. She's using a pseudonym because she doesn't want to do that, and that's entirely understandable. In short, I'm not going to ask because I respect their (her?) privacy.
I think it's much more likely that my doctor is thinking like Yoga Girl, without being Yoga Girl. Perhaps she's read Yoga Girl's blog, and got it from there, I don't know.. I'm also not going to ask about that, for the same reason.
While it's fun to think about having an in-person relationship with Yoga Girl, what's really important is the teaching itself. Whether I heard this teaching from two women, or from one woman in two roles, is relatively unimportant.
Namaste.
I always find these kind of posts describing 24/7 lifestyles disturbing. What concernting adults do together in there play time is find as long as it's all safe and sane is more than fine by me, but the idea of having a D/s dynamic all the time makes me worried. I feel like there's such a high chance of abuse and harm, weather acsedental or intended, and of one or both parties getting suck in the mindset, almost brainwashed into a relationship that's become unhealthy.
ReplyDeleteI hope that's not the case
I have to agree. Yoga Girl comes across as verging on abusive in her blog. I'd love to hear her partners truthful point of view.
DeleteSigh... Live and let live. All we know is what she describes on her blog. On the basis of that, her husband seems to greatly appreciate his wife!
DeleteCouple of things:
Delete1. Yoga Girl made it clear that his adherence to her orgasm control is a condition of remaining married to her.
2. He is punished by being restrained and paddled with a 20" paddle 50 times if he ACCIDENTALLY ejaculates. This also happens if he speaks to her in a tone that she could do without. She concedes that the paddle "is brutal" and recently described how much she enjoyed hitting him, so much so that she is contemplating that level of a beating each week for her own enjoyment.
3. She has used a dog collar to shock him and made it clear that she would also use that as her "aversive stimulus" if he accidentally ejaculates.
4. None of this is "scening." I asked if she uses a safeword, and she said that's "not relevant for us."
Draw your own conclusions.
-- James
The only thing that is 24/7 in our relationship is that he practices semen retention, has an ejaculation schedule, and there is agreed upon consequences for for unauthorized ejaculation. everything else including submission is heavily influenced by the duration of his schedule. Our relationship is always in flux as far as that aspect is concerned. My husband is one happy boy. He may not always get what he wants, but he definitely gets what he needs.
DeleteSo, now I sign the response, and you censor it when it just provides specifics that support the other two commenters? Nice.
Delete--James
There's a meanness in the tone of her blog which is not for me.
DeleteRelax james, your comment got caught by the spam filter. Ha ha! No conspiracy (from me, anyways!)
DeleteMy response to you now is that you consistently fail to recognize clearly consensual relationships and then insist on being holier than thou rather than celebrating consensual alternative relationships, whether or not you personally would engage. NOW I will close this thread, having had the last word ;-)
DeleteI'm still working on "semen retention".
ReplyDeleteRetention? Retention? Saving it up for the weekend? Like...it has a "shelf life"? It doesn't work that way.
A.J.
I like the idea that he gets desperate for his wife's permission to ejaculate, and hence is so eager to please!
DeleteSemen retention may be great for males in their 20's to 30's but not so good for dudes over the age of 50.
ReplyDeleteResearch at the University of Nottingham showed an increase risk of prostate cancer, in the 20 - 30 group, from frequent masturbation . Conversely it showed a reduced risk of prostate cancer in the over 50's group,(actually intercourse was inconclusive and determined not to be a contributing factor).
So all the 50's plus dudes that read your blog can wank away!
So for most men who masturbated constantly during their teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and beyond it averages out? ;-)
DeleteOf particular interest to me was yoga girl pissing in her husbands mouth following sex to cool him down and shut him up. One sceneing idea would have David cumming in your honey pot followed by directly feeding him a mouthful of piss and semen. One time during phone domination I was ordered to cum and piss in a glass then stir it with a messy dildo which was up you know where. I was then required to drink it down while enduring verbal humiliation. The cum and pee mixture looked like a lava lamp.
ReplyDeleteCum and pee sounds healthy, but your stir stick is not!
DeleteThanks so much, Julie! I'm glad you found it interesting. :-)
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure!
DeleteIs peeing into someone's mouth safe?
ReplyDeleteIt's safe as long as the giver is disease free, and the receiver had no cuts in their mouth.
DeleteNo; it's not. Unless it is in very small amounts, certainly not a bladder full. And who knows if the giver is disease-free (and of what diseases?), and the receiver has no cuts (we all have something like that.)
DeleteUrine is mostly water, but a percentage of it is true waste products your kidney has removed, for a reason. Spitting it out may be OK, but drinking that urine will go right back to your kidney to be again removed. Do that often enough (compounding) and you will get urine overly concentrated with dangerous waste products that can cause symptoms similar to those brought on by total kidney failure. Total. Kidney. Failure.
Please note that you should seek medical advice from Doctors!
DeleteGiven the amount of uric acid in urine, can drinking someone's urine cause gout?
Delete--James
I absolutely agree with Strict Julie. When you want advice about whether a practice is safe, medically, you should ask a medical professional, rather than pay attention to anonymous posters on the internet.
DeleteOf course, asking your doctor could be embarrassing, or even humiliating. You have to ask yourself if avoiding temporary discomfort is so important you would forgo the opportunity to get accurate information.
I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. I did not even sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night! A quick Google search will reveal a diversity of opinions on urine drinking. Many survivalists suggest it is safe to drink in an emergency. Some people believe it has actual health benefits. Most agree it is a sterile liquid if coming from a healthy person. Obviously, it should NOT be your only source of fluid. Also obviously, there is a large population of kinksters that participate in it. I would think if it was a high-risk activity, word would have gotten out. Safe, sane and consensual is more than just a slogan. The kink community cares about each other. All activities carry risk. It is up to each person to assess the risk and calculate if the reward is worth it. I have consumed significant quantities (how much does a bladder hold?) of women's urine in the past with no ill effects. For myself, if it would get me within pissing distance of Julie's beautiful body, I would eagerly swallow every drop.
DeleteAwwww!
DeleteHi Julie,
ReplyDeleteI adore you, your imagination and your descriptive powers. Thanks so much for the thought you invest in making this so appealing to us readers, it demonstrates a generous and givin personality. I'm just curious. Are you planning on introducing ejaculation control (chastity belt or other) into your relationship with david?
All the best
Arthur (an obsessed fan)
I'll encourage him to try...
DeleteIs david amenable to the idea?
DeleteArthur
Not at all!
DeleteShe sounds like every other female supremacist I've ever encountered. Vindictive, manipulative, controlling, abusive and convinced of her righteousness. Nothing new here.
ReplyDeleteHer whole relationship is based on manipulating her husband through sexual denial - and not for play - but in order to control him. To have the upper hand in the relationship. It sounds very healthy to me. She sounds like a really well balanced woman.
That's a funny read. Her husband is happy and healthy and a willing participant. Who are we to say that is not the case?
DeleteReally? Have you communicated with him?
DeleteI have. He monitors her blog, and I had an exchange with him.
He said he was terrified of the shock collar she used on him. She zapped him so bad he never masturbated again--after one shock. He is also extremely angry.
She also said that she enjoyed beating him so much with her 20" paddle that she got carried away, and had to stop before the 50 strokes she allotted him. This was real punishment for his speaking to her in a way she didn't like it was not a scene. Now she wants to do it weekly, just because she enjoys it. She called it brutal and said he does not enjoy it. Those are HER words.
Glad to see some other commenters have drawn similar conclusions.
--James
I'm sorry james, I don't know if I can trust what you say given you past proclivity to jump at straws (I know for a fact my husband's attitude to our play, and know it to be 100% opposite what you believe and espouse to be true); or if you can trust you were really communicating with her husband (as we all choose to remain anonymous).
DeleteRegardless, the husband is free to end this arrangement with his wife, or to end his relationship with her, and yet chooses not to. He accepts his punishments even though they are deliberately designed to be "aversive". Free choice
Well, Julie the exchange is still there for all to see. It's in the comment thread under "Abolishing Your Husband's Masturbation Habrit." Hr calls himself "The Moderator" and his comments are dated August 1, 2016. So, you can choose to ignore that or not. I'm no more impressed with your honesty than you are with mine.
DeleteTelling someone that they can leave is not exactly coercion-free consent. I guess that doesn't bother you. He's a house husband. She makes all the money.
--James
Thanks, I had not noticed that comment. It presumably is him, as Yoga Girl allowed it to stand. What I get from the comment, however, is
Delete"I crave her control, and I've given her control over my life. I wish it could could be so much more cruel, but it can't. She's not that way. She's a loving caring person. But we can't have everything. I'll take what I can get."
Sounds pretty fucking consensual to me.
And as to your last comment, if he got his bitch ass out of the house and started earning he could go where he pleases. Besides, in a divorce the court would give him half of her money as if he was a woman in the same situation.
You skipped a ton of what he said, but OK. It was an inconsistent, semi coherent rant in which he said he was "retaining out of fear," but obviously there's no progress to be made here. Others have raised the issues I did. We can leave it there.
DeleteNot sure why you're hostile enough towards him to use the phrase "bitch ass."
My God. James has a twisted mind. My wife is a dream come true. There's not a man that doesn't want her. I'm very fortunate she lets me be in her presence. I may not always get what I want, but she gives me what I need. She does what she does as a concession to me. Yes, she is something to fear. I couldn't love her more.
DeleteReally? Did I misquote you that you were retaining out of fear? Do you enjoy the 20" paddle sessions and do you want to make them weekly?' Your wife indicates that you truly dread them, and that she truly enjoys them. If you like them, more power to you, but who can tell?
DeleteI'm sure plenty of men don't want her. We don't all equate love and fear even if we enjoy spanking play.
Do you want to ejaculate on your schedule or don't you? I've seen both statements on your blog.
-- James
Really? Did I misquote you that you were retaining out of fear?
DeleteYes, I retain out of fear ....so. This has only magnified my love for her a hundred fold.
"Do you enjoy the 20" paddle sessions and do you want to make them weekly?'"
No, I do not enjoy them. I still don't see your point. I hope she enjoys them.
Do you want to ejaculate on your schedule or don't you?
I would love to ejaculate more, and would if I could. But that's not up to me. She knows what's best. I'm certainly in no position to decide that.
As we do in depth companion inventories, my only request is that this be non consensual. My non consent is 110% consensual. Safe word? If we ever do anything dangerous, maybe I'll ask her to consider it. Limits? She defines my limits. It's my job to live up to them. Scene? What the hell is that? We live our life. People can learn from it or not. We would never judge your life, we expect the same from you. Really, if your not into it, just move on. In continues notes to her that you know she will never read. You've called my wife a cunt and a monster and a direct quote from you, James:
"I hope that a tragedy worthy of your cruelty befalls you, and the sins you commit are visited upon you ten fold"
This negativity and hate will only reflect back to you and cause you serious health problems.
You have not one clue about us. We love each other very much. The passion we experience practicing her semen retention, ejaculation schedule, and agreed upon consequences is mind shattering. So much so, she's wanted to share it with other people by doing the blog.
Well said, ygh!
DeleteLike many subs I know, you are a truly together and strong man. You do this because you want to, and have the strength and self-confidence to submit to your wife.
Answering james' question as to why I am hostile to ygh by using the name "bitch".
It is NOT hostile. ygh CLEARLY enjoys his status as kept house husband and as his wife's "bitch". My david LOVES when I call him "my bitch". By catering to ygh's submissiveness in this manner, having another Woman, a stranger even, calling him her wife's "bitch", it is actually a kindness (it certainly was intended as such, at any rate!).
You're welcome, ygh, you little cum retaining housework doing bitch, you! ;-)
Here's the thing with "My non consent is 110% consensual": It means his participation in any particular act cannot be construed to pleasurable or safe merely by his participation in it. That's completely different than the Julie/David scenario, where an act that may seem brutal or horrific in the moment is actually desired by David at the end of the day.
DeleteIn contrast, Yoga Girl the sole control over her husband's safety and well being. His participation in any act in no way means that he sanctions it or wants it to happen. Thus, nothing should be inferred as to any particular act by the mere fact of his submission.
That places the sole responsibility for his physical and psychological well being in his wife's hands, and she herself has described her paddling of him as "brutal"--but that's not the "David brutal" where he just likes really hard play. It's something Mr. Yoga Girl has repeatedly said he dreads and does not want.
He says he's happy, which is great. She still has an obligation to not harm him physically or psychologically and not to be brutal given the control he has ceded to her.
"Consent to non-consent" is just forfeiting or waiving consent.
So, yeah. I think this sort of thing is important. If that makes me seem "holier than thou" or whatever other invective Julie wants to lob my way, so be it.
-- James
No need for invective at all, james. Your commenting has much improved of late. Ever since you attach your name I note. Good boy!
DeleteYes, his well-being is in her hands, but she seems eminently qualified being a medical practitioner. And psychologically, far from damage, he seems to crave it. He certainly keeps coming back for more, which is active consent. He just craves to be really under his wife's control, not just during a scene, but always. Think of it as one long extended scene.
But is it healthy in the long term for Yoga Girl to have to be so entirely responsible for her husband on every level? I understand the concern about him but what about her too? By giving up "110%" of his concent and control he's putting an awful lot of weight on her shoulder. I can't speak for her but I know from my own experience that having to carry and mentain not only my own well being but also having that a partners can be draining and even cause resentment to grow.
DeleteJust a thought on reading this tread
-E
Her intent concerns me more than her medical qualifications. He does not crave the beatings. He has never said that, and she has never said that. He does not "keep coming back for more" of them. He does not eroticze them before, during, or after. I've never seen her express concern for his well being with respect to the beatings, and if she takes your advice and administers. 300 stroke beating with a 20 inch wood paddle when he can barely tolerate 50 strokes, I would be seriously concerned for his safety.
Delete"Consent to not consent" is a legal fiction, but a deeply submissive guy will let a woman take him to dangerous places. The only thing standing in her way is her own conscience.
-- James
Relax james. They have been practicing for a while, and are perfectly safe. They both want it. They have both made that 100% clear. Who are you to say otherwise?
DeleteI'll be closing this topic down now. In case you haven't figured it out yet, On my blog I ALWAYS get the last word. Ha Ha!
so do you think she into spanking as well and a spanker Yoga does have lot postion pose too any can be turn into spanking postion butt sticking out
ReplyDeleteI'm sure her hubby is very adept at Downward Dog!
DeleteYou could be right He is her Sub at Downard Dog i should go to her blog and ask her
DeleteShe is a spanker. She ties him to the bed and uses a 20" paddle with drilled holes if he accidentally ejaculates.
Delete-- James
Yes she does! Yums!
DeleteWell, in her latest post she's threatening her husband with 300 stroke, 30 minute beatings without any of the work you did to calibrate David's tolerance and ensure his safety, So, there's a feather in your cap.
Delete--James
I dread it, but I will accept what she feels is best. I'm not sure I could make it to Julie's 300 strokes, but if she want's to, I will submit to anything she chooses.
DeleteAs Julie points out I her article, you are restrained and don't have a choice whether you make it. So, no worries there.
Delete-- James
Submission is very freeing for the sub.
DeleteIt's what we/they crave.
No argument there. Very tautological and very true.
Delete-- James
YGH: You may be able to survive the 300 strokes if you practice dissociation. Look it up. The Navy Seals teach people how to do it in case they're captured. It takes some practice, so start now rather than later.
DeleteI got a pretty intense spanking yesterday during a pretty nasty role play from a pro I see and couldn't tolerate it, so I dissociated and she was unable to get much of a response out of me once I was gone, and she gave up.
-- James
or... you could have used a slow down safeword and stayed present to enjoy it all.
DeleteNo. That was not really an option.
DeleteIf was a complicated role play where she stayed in character as a wife giving a vicious disciplinary beating, and I pushed back verbally while she beat me. Part of the idea was to survive it as-is. I have done many with her where I stay present.
Also, a big difference between women who call themselves "Disciplinarians" as opposed to "Dominatrices" is that the former are often reliuctant to use safewords. This woman is the former. They believe it's not sufficiently "real" if you can safeword. This also seems to be the case with many domestic discipline couples. For example, YG doesn't allow a safeword. Nor does Dianne allow one for Bob. They have nowhere to run if the pain is too much.
At that point, when you're overwhelmed, it's best to check out. I am trying to stay present more, but some times I can't.
-- James
I do not know how much of Yoga Girl's blog relating to the treatment of her husband is real and how much is ment to be fantasy/titilation, but like James and others I find it's tone off putting and worrying.
ReplyDeleteJulie would you ever consider blogging about other parts of your relationship with David, not just the D/s amd DD stuff, to show the other dynamics and that when not playing you two we happy equals who enthusiastically convent to your play and know that you can say no, "not tonight Josephine" without fear or repercussion?
But her husband is definitely into it so I am therefore very cool with it.
DeleteSure, it's a great idea for a blog article, though it won't be terribly tittilating!
Mix it in which a play scene, showing the changes between the two modes of your relationship if you want tittilation? Or just make your reader wait in anticipation
DeleteGood idea! I could manage that.
Delete"I do not know how much of Yoga Girl's blog relating to the treatment of her husband is real and how much is ment to be fantasy/titilation, but like James and others I find it's tone off putting and worrying."
DeleteThat's just silly. Worrying? You can't be serious. ..and none of it's fantasy. What's presented by her in the blog is the model that we live by.
And a lovely, sexy, fulfilling lifestyle it is!
DeleteIt was interesting to see how on board you were with your gal pal's suggestion of having a male beat a woman's husband if he accidentally ejaculates.
DeleteWhy stop there? Just have the male sodomize him. It may cure him from ejaculating at the wrong time . . . or ever again. Wouldn't that be delicious?
-- James
Yes it would!
Delete(if it's not a hard limit for the poor boy)
They don't do limits. I asked.
Delete-- James
It’s a shame that so many negative comments have caused the FLR 101 blog to be removed or taken private. I for one have got a great amount of information from it and that has caused my wife and I to be more intimate than ever.
ReplyDeleteJulie, do you have an email address for YG or her husband?
Ps. Like your blog too Julie, makes great reading.
I don’t unfortunately.
DeleteHi juliesp,l am sorry that Yoga Girl's blog become private.How can l get invitation to her blog,l really would like to continue following her blog.
ReplyDeleteSteve Wolf
Thank you very much.
No idea how. Maybe you can use the waybackmachine to read her old blog?
DeleteAre you able to get Yoga Girl's husband's email address from his comment above? I'd love if you would get him in touch with me so I can share some of YG's old blogs on my blog or I'd even settle for an interview. Thanks in advance.
ReplyDeleteI am really sorry that Yoga Girl closed her pblog.Hope she will continue posting in the future.Thank you Yoga Girl very much for well written posts,and for acknowledging people.Wish you all the best.
ReplyDeleteSteve1
Good post julie,thanks Yoga Gorl for her blog,really sorry,it became private,would like to follow her blog.
ReplyDeleteToo bad Yoga Girl has taken her blog private, it was an interesting read & I'm curious to see how her husband's training has progressed.
ReplyDeleteReally sorry that YG finishes her blog, it was really useful and acknowledging for men and women, home she will return.
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