Daddy Daughter and Forced Bi

I've been corresponding off an on with a fan since 2015. He's an older gentleman now in his 60's. He wrote a lovely email to me after having read a May, 2015 post, An Epic Spanking for my Husband in which, in part, I masturbated david into his own mouth.

Here it is:

From: bill
Date: Jun 1, 2015
Subject: latest post

Hi Julie,

i have been reading your posts for a couple of years. Always, it is the first place i check when doing my daily search for fantasy masturbation material :),

i love the fact that you love to beat him and you have a sadistic streak - he is so lucky. i always wanted a woman to make me cum in my mouth but never got the chance... i can't imagine the humiliation if it was done in front of a woman i know ugh! Imagine then seeing the person in daily life and knowing she has watched you eat your own cum :)

i took this offline to have a chance to chat. i know you are probably very busy but i am hoping you will have a few minutes to answer this. While i have had opportunities in the past to explore my fantasies (sometimes with a friend and sometimes professionally) i have looked back on my life and see many missed opportunities to be in this kind of relationship but somehow was too shy to speak up.,

i look forward to more posts by you and will continue to use it as my primary place to go when i'm in need of some relief :),

Take care and thank you for all the time and effort you put into your blog,

bill

This email, and many more like it, is in part what keeps me going for so long, aside from also having a lot of fun with it! But sometimes I need the motivation to get to writing, even though I know I will enjoy it once I hunker down at my keyboard. (And -- a little secret -- sometimes when I am caught up in the writing one of my hands strays to my pussy or up to my tits, and I tease myself like crazy, which is also "fun"!).

We have been exchanging emails back and forth ever since. At one point bill and I decided to collaborate on a fictional story that mixed fantasy elements we both enjoy. In this blog I'll describe our "creative process", and you'll find a link to the story towards the bottom.

It started with this email from bill in April of 2017:

Hi Julie,

I was reading this older email and it got me thinking of humiliation (well, I'm always thinking of that since it is at the my core fantasies).,

"Yes, there is a delicious level of humiliation associated with cum onto the face and into the mouth. Women are so objectified in those vanilla porn videos where that seems to happen on practically every one that it's wonderful to turn the tables, and especially to restrain a man, do that to him after a good beating, and have that witnessed by a group of feminists. Girl power! Teaching collective lessons one boi at a time!"

What could be more humiliating for a guy then to have someone cum on his face (well probably a lot of other things as well). Well maybe having a guy cum on your face in front of other people. That started me thinking of a fantasy involving my favorite internet porn writer (you who else) and her cadre of characters :)

Some of the components of the story would be:

• shaved from the head down
• dressed in panties stockings and training bra (after all no boobs)
• serving wine and cheese to You, your husband or maybe include John and Tracy (the dynamics between the characters would be interesting)
• Cooking and serving a gourmet meal (I happen to be a very good cook so why not provide a venue for a nice AND humiliating evening)
• me kneeling
• you sitting
• male standing
• cum squirted on my face (before dinner) - maybe David, masturbated by you, then pointed to my face at the opportune moment)
• made to leave it on while serving dinner
• under the table performing oral sex on you and/or Tracey
• after dinner drinks being served

I wonder what happens next :)

bill

I wrote back with some heartfelt encouragement:

Hi bill,

I love that level of humiliation applied to a straight non-cross-dressing male! Especially the detail of keeping the cum on his face during service!!! david would NOT enjoy being jerked off onto another male's face, so it works both ways. Lovely kinky mind you have there, bill!

Julie

You will see when you read the story, many of the elements bill and I were starting to get excited about appearing in the story as themes.

Hi Julie,

Yes since humiliation is a big one for me I have recently been thinking of being forced to suck a cock in front of women and be humiliated being called a cocksucker and faggot.

Funny a good woman friend of mine who would occasionally indulge me in my femdom fantasies with verbal humiliations but she hadn't done it for a while. So when talking to her I goaded her by insulting her and some name calling like what a pussy she was :) then called me a faggot "you faggot, I bet no one has ever called you that" I was so turned on by her humiliating words I masturbated it to it twice in one night.

So the fantasy below would be an incredible turn on and could be pushed further...oops I need to go and take care of myself :) I got a little too excited talking about this, I'll need to go looking for cuckold literature on the web where he is forced to do degrading things for his wife and lover.

Take care and as always I love your blog - YEA Julie!!!!

bill

I think here we need a little discussion over the use of the terms "faggot" and "cocksucker", as they will also appear in our story. These terms are used by homophobes to disparage gay men, and in that context they are very, very ugly. However, in this context they are used as words to humiliate (consensually) a straight man. The fact that they are used to demean by homophobes is what makes them so degrading to a straight man. It's maybe not right, but it's kinky psychology. So long as nobody is being hurt (other than those that want to be!) I give it a pass. But I do want to be clear that I fully support any adult's right to fuck any other adult, regardless of sex or gender. But I nonetheless reserve the right to call my husband a "faggot" when I have a cock up his ass, and a "cocksucker" when I have a dick in his mouth.

billy quickly followed up with another email due to a sexy incident that happened to him:

Hi Julie,

I didn't get a response from below (I know you are busy) but anyway I had an episode with an escort that I thought you might find entertaining reading.

I'm one of those older readers who start my day looking for new posts on your blog. I saw someone yesterday for a session. This is a young woman about 28 or so with blond hair and nice body flat tummy nice ass and perky boobs and somewhat of an angelic face. She isn't really very dominant but will do things I ask her to do. So sometimes she face-fucks my mouth with a dildo or will sit on my face and rub her panty covered pussy over my mouth and fuck it (if you haven't noticed I am very orally fixated :) Well I was on my back and she had my legs up and had penetrated me with a dildo and was slowly fucking me and I asked her to give me a slap on the face.

So she did a somewhat mild slap and it didn't hurt at all so I asked her to slap me 5 times. Well she raised her hand (this angelic looking young woman) looked me in the eye and raised her hand. She seemed to be taking aim since there was this hesitation with her hand raised and then she slapped me then she quickly backhanded the other cheek then slapped me again and then backhanded me again then the final slap. Wow she hurt and when I thought of the episode I found the backhand was so erotic. I don't know why but the slap and the quick backhand just so turned me on when I think about it. At the time it stunned me and now I wish I had asked for 6 slaps :)

Anyway a very interesting adventure. The only thing that would have been more erotic is if there was one of her friends - another young woman to have witnessed it and then laughed at me.

Well as always I love your blog and it is the first thing i check out when going on the web. BTW if you ever want to pursue your father fantasies with an older guy with a cute ass and slim body then please let me know. I am available :)

Looking forward to hearing from you but also know you probably get hundreds of emails and can't answer them all.

Take care and look forward to more installments of your life and times!!

bill

As you can see from his emails, bill is clearly very intelligent, well educated, literate, and writes very well. I find it fun that old bill goes behind his wife's back and sees a cute young escort who is dominant over him (his wife is not into it at all, so I give him a "pass" on that). I also find it cute that bill came onto me. Hey, you don't ask you don't get, right? Horny old daddy.

I wrote back more encouragement to bill.

Hi bill,

Wow, that sounds like fun. I will see if my husband would enjoy a good face slap (and i won't forget the backhand) next time I'm pegging him missionary.

Actually, I've been thinking of scening him at a bar. We're just talking. All of a sudden I just slap his face, in public, as if he said something crass, sexual and offensive to me.

I think you should definitely arrange for one of your girls to bring a young man in to make you into a real faggot! Would love to hear about that! Apparently lots of gay men enjoy fagotting a straight.

Julie

You can see I was playing with bill's "faggot" fantasy, which I enjoy doing, knowing the effects my words will have on him (rub rub rub rub, little monkey!). Then he wrote back to me and started free associating (no doubt with his left hand on his dick as he was typing, as you will see)

Well maybe I'm with her and a girlfriend shows up with her boyfriend

She tells them I'm her bitch for the day and they start to tease me and tell me how they are going to use me

My mistress tells them that she was about to do me with a dildo and her friend says why use a dildo since her boyfriend has a cock she could use

Mistress says to go knell in front of the guy and ask to suck his cock

I'm very reluctant since I've never done it and the thought grosses me out

Mistress and her friend grab me and force me to my knees and then mistress slaps be and backhands me 5 times

My head is spinning and can't take any more

I unzip his pants and pull it out. Her friend grabs my hair and pushes my face near his cock. Mistress pinches my nose and forces his cock into my open mouth

Her girlfriend laughs and says "look at that he's sucking cock. What a little faggot

He starts to pump his cock in and out of my mouth I'm drooling as my mouth tries to lubricate itself

.... want to hear more?

While it is a fun fantasy when I imagine actually doing it I'm grossed out totally

Suddenly bill's spelling and grammar go into the toilet, and his words become very choppy. That's my clue that he had one hand down his pants as he was typing! But this "sexy free association" is the genesis of our story.

I responded enthusiastically to his ask if I want to hear more.

Oh yes, you little faggot, you!
:-)

He started sending me more of the same sort of writing. A bit hasty, feverish, and disconnected writing, so different from his well-crafted emails. But that is also what makes it exciting, how raw it was! I encouraged him some more on the latest installment which had a lot of forced bi in it.

Awesome! Thank you!
It is definitely a fantasy of MINE to do that same thing to my husband!!!!

Julie

bill responded in "normal" mode.

I understand his reluctance. Sucking a cock would be a major transition for a straight guy so I totally empathize. Although you have done soo much with him that I would think it would be a bit easier. While I re-read this in my mind it is very humiliating and fun to jerk-off to but probably would not ever do it in real life unless i had someone like you in my life and even then it would be a big step. Although when in that sub space I felt I would have done anything or allowed her to do anything to me.

BTW when April was using the dildo on me I wanted her to hurt me. So I told her and wanted 5 slaps per an earlier email. She did and it did hurt....

I started to wonder if David wants you to hurt him... Perhaps hurt is the wrong word but at that moment I had a strong urge for this young pretty woman to hurt me. Weird. When you have been spanked is it wanting to be hurt by the person doing the spanking. I know it seems like a silly question since when you do that to David he is crying and snot is coming out of his nose so there has to be a lot of pain, but I was curious if he just likes the pain or wants you to hurt him.

It is a little scary and because of those feelings I might not do it again. Scared of where it might lead.

bill

I love when subbies get so... conflicted! But he will do it again.

bill started sending me more and more episodes of his story. But they were quite long! It's quite easy for me to steal a few moments now and then to read and respond to short emails, but for a long story I need some quality time. As well, it was coming in multiple long parts and I would need to piece them all together again. bill was getting a bit desperate for some reaction from me, and ended a latest episode with...

...
"Maybe when we get home I'll have you clean me out while Victoria watches..."

Continue at home? please a few words of encouragement or debasement :)

The dots represent a lot more story before that, and it ended with the potential introduction of "Victoria", the main character's daughter. bill knows I particularly enjoy father-daughter stuff so I encouraged him.

That's an exciting scenario, bill. I would love to put my husband through some forced-bi like that. But now, bringing the daughter into it? You're hitting ALL my buttons now. Please continue!

Julie

bill writes me back more stuff, and I respond and ask if I may be permitted to publish.

Fantastic! Keep going, please! Will you allow me to make some edits and adjustments and then publish it on my blog when done?

The scenario with the naked daughter and her dad lusting after her with a hard-on, being teased and laughed at by her, is my favourite part. I would have so totally done that to my Daddy!!! Something primal about having your Dad lusting after you. I hope she gets to spank him also, and then uses his toungue for her pleasure!

Julie

He responds,

Thanks for the encouragement and I'll keep writing. Even though femdom is my hot button this humiliation and forced bi gets me really hot.

This is the only story I have ever written although I have probably read most of the femdom and humiliation stories online...I guess I needed to write my own since I've exhausted them at Literotica.

Yes, of course you can use it. That is my favorite part as well. I added having her turn around half naked...but teasing him and then calling him a cocksucker and dismissing him.

I'll keep going. Although it might be a little gay for your blog although the humiliation would turn on quite a bit of your readers :)

bill

P.S. make any edits you want. I'm sure there are quite a few inconsistencies. It was more of a lark to write it and I didn't pay close attention to detail :)

I don't think a story of forced bi is at all "gay". The more gay you are, the less forced bi accomplishes the goal of dominance and humiliation, so I think that the straighter the guy is, the better in a forced bi scene.

bill writes a couple more installments, and I am having trouble keeping up, and it is getting quite long, so I ask bill to bring it to a close.

Nice!
One more chapter, and please bring it to a conclusion!

I would love to see Jim having a threesome with your wife and daughter. When you object, your wife tells Jim to put you across his lap, pull your panties down, and hand-spank you to tears. Then in the corner, panties pulled down, while he has that threesome. One word out of you and Jim will take the belt to you and ass fuck you in front of the ladies... ;-)

Julie

bill brought the story to a close in Jan of 2018. It was in multiple parts and very long, and was very, very raw, but all of it was genuinely exciting and tailored to a combination of bill's and my fantasies.

The task of pulling it all together and editing it was quite daunting,  so it was hard to get started. bill politely inquired in December of 2018 if I would ever publish it, so I sent bill away to gather it all together and clean it up somewhat, a task he finished before the New Year. It was still very long and daunting, though, and I knew it needed a lot of work. He followed up again in July of 2019, and then again in November! In November I said, that's it! I need to get going on this, so I finally took it on.

I really, really enjoyed editing it. What bill had sent was mainly dialog, so I needed to set the scene better, and to add insights into what the characters were thinking. I also needed to correct a bunch of inconsistencies (like, he was in panties one moment, and the next moment he was naked without a description of how he lost his panties - I find things like that jarring in a story). It was also written in a mixture of grammatical tenses, from various different points of views, so I needed to decide on a consistent point of view and modify everything to fit that. Along the way, I added some more fantasy fodder from my own mind as well, but the dialog remains 95% bill's work, and the entire plot line also 95% bill.

So, without further ado, I present a collaboration between bill and myself. I named it "billie's hard day" which is a double or even triple entendre, if you know what I mean. Please enjoy and come back here to comment!

click here:
billie's hard day