I've been observing the US elections from over here in Canuckistan and have a few things to say. I find it appalling how left leaning people are being utterly failed by their news sources. The news should say what's going on, and leave it to us to judge if it's true or not. It seems to be a particularly leftist point of view that certain ideas are "dangerous" and should be held back from you. A case in point is all the disputes regarding the US Presidential Election.
I know some left-leaning family members who insist there is absolutely no evidence of any fraud at all, and that the recent election is more secure that any that has previously gone on, and that the vote tallies are 100% reflective of the will of the voters. In the immortal words of Uncle Joe, what malarkey!
There have been hours upon hours of eye-witness testimony regarding election impropriety, illegality, and outright fraud. These eye witnesses have signed sworn affidavits. This means they can be charged and go to jail if they are found to be lying. That's a pretty high standard. I don't trust the news, left or right, so I listen to the eye witnesses myself at these hearings. Many of these testimonies are admittedly very minor things (albeit minor illegal things), and some seem to be outright confirmation bias (someone saw something, and interpreted it as voter fraud when it likely is not). But there are some real serious allegations in there.
One that was breaking yesterday as I write this was what went on in Georgia at around 1am after voting day. Now, I heard the testimony of the Secretary of State regarding Georgia's election laws and processes, and they seem to be very strict and well-conceived in general, and the lawmakers there are rightly proud of that. However, if certain checks and balances are taken away, such as Republican observers at key moments, there are opportunities for fraud big enough to drive a truck through.
The mass mail-in ballots is where most of these opportunities exist. The way it works is that the outer envelopes containing the identity and signature information are separated from the inner ballot, which has no identifying information. So the only chance to see if a ballot is legitimate is at this point in time. The naked ballots are then run through the tabulators to get the counts. If they later hand-count the naked ballots, that can check if the machine tabulation was correct, which is a useful check which can eliminate the chance that the tabulators were hacked to skew the vote totals, or the same ballots were run through the machine multiple times. But this alone hardly eliminates all possibilities of fraud. If the ballots themselves were illegitimate, a hand recount does not check for that.
Republicans have been calling for a comprehensive audit of the signatures themselves, but so far the (Republican) Governor and Secretary of State have resisted.
However, there has been some breaking news presented under oath at the hearings that has led the Governor to change his position on that today.
The photo above shows an anomalous vote spike in Georgia for Biden of 225,000 versus Trump's 99,000 at around 1:30am on Nov 4. That's an unusually large number of votes in the dump and a slightly unusually large Biden lead.
At around 10pm everybody at that counting center were sent home having been told no more vote counting would occur on that day. This includes reporters and poll watchers. However, four people stayed behind and continued the counting. There were no poll watchers among them, which is in clear violation of the Georgia Election Law already. They did what they did and left the building at around 1am. Even more suspiciously, the ballots being counted were pulled out of suitcases. Four large suitcases estimated to hold about 24,000 votes total. Ballots do not come in suitcases. It is all on security cam video presented as evidence. Nobody said these people were smart! See the testimony below that shows this.
The difference between Biden and Trump in Georgia was 12,670 votes. Were 24,000 Biden votes added into a large dump of mail-in votes that naturally favoured Biden, and just enough to push Biden over the top? Possibly. It certainly looks suspicious.
I'll be interested in the results of an investigation on this. Those people shown in the video should all be interviewed by the FBI, and quickly. Where those suitcase ballots came from should be ascertained, why they told everybody they shut down the counting and then continued counting without poll watchers present should be determined. Logs from the tabulators should be pulled showing the balance of Biden to Trump votes counted during the periods the suitcases were opened.
This is only one of many examples. There are egregious things going on in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and other places. There are hours and hours of credible testimony from sworn witnesses if you only take the trouble to go look for them.
If this is the first you are hearing of this, from a spanking blogger, you should be seriously questioning the trustworthiness and agenda of your news sources.
Julie,
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this. There is plenty if evidence that this election is being stolen. PA alone had twice as many absentee ballots returned as were requested! Clear evidence of voter fraud. I recommend Newsmax to get a fuller picture. Rudy even presented a long list of evidence, but our leftist media refuses to even look at it,
There seems to be a bit of doubt around the "twice as many" claim, so I have not come to a conclusion on that yet. But the big Democrat-controlled cities in PA, like in the other swing states, did make a concerted effort to keep Republicans from observing in a meaningful way, which is highly suspicious to me. Not evidence of fraud in and of itself, but certainly a pre-condition that enables fraud, as the Georgia case shows. That combined with certain suspicious statistics (such as 800% voter turnout???) again point to fraud, without being convictable, indictable, evidence of fraud. I would hate if this election was decided on the basis that fraud cannot be proven beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt, but there are are hundreds of illegal and suspicious things that are indicative of fraud.
Deletehi juliesp, he never said that in 2016 when he won the election. he lost because he ignored the pandemic and he lies all the time he a sociopath . and respect there is no evidence
DeleteLikely there was fraud in 2016 from Dems, but Trump's lead surprised them. He was immediately on the defence because of the Russia collusion hoax, which was good strategy from the Dems.
DeleteLOL....The people have spoken... Donald you are fired!!Oh and by the way Donald Trump doesn't believe there is fraud, he is just hoping his dumb ass supporters believe it and the real dumb ones are believing it...I guess Julie you are just hoping someday he will grab you by the pussy.
ReplyDeleteI let this comment through so you all can see a sampling of the quality thought processes from some on the left. Ha ha!
DeleteLet me be frank: posting stuff like this makes you look dumb.
ReplyDeleteThis is truly pathetic.
Great counter-argument! Not dumb or pathetic at all.
DeleteCorrect. This is the only intelligent thing you have posted today. Good job, you are learning!
DeleteI am surprised you let this comment though. Hope you understood I wasn't actually appreciating your dumbass Julie.
DeleteYou seem to be too dull to understand I was referring to you. Oh well, half the population (your half) has an IQ less than 100.
DeleteJulie, it's your blog, you can post what you want, you don't over-do the political stuff, your comments are well thought out and intelligent (and I agree with them) and people using words like "pathetic" and "dumb" are merely revealing their own character. Keep up the great work, I love your blog!!!
DeleteThanks! I really do appreciate comments like this. They make me happy like a little girl!
DeleteAll of these pieces of 'evidence' evaporate when they have to go to court. You can lie to the public any time you want, but if you lie in court it is something else.
ReplyDeleteAll of this malarkey is just the flim flam man conning the public one more time before he leaves office. He has raised 200 million since he lost. It does not cost that to hire Rudy and his band of incompetents.
It's testimony sworn under oath. They go to jail if they are lying, just like in court.
DeleteFor the 100th time. Sworn affidavits are not testimonies.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit
DeleteUnfortunately the US legal system does not work based on wikipedia articles.
DeleteEducate yourself.
DeleteAnything can be sworn under oath. That doesn’t make it true. And these sworn affidavits are either being tossed out of court because it is not evidence, or not being presented in the first place (because actual lawyers, unlike the clown prince, know what constitutes evidence. Please get your opinions from a reputable source, not Tucker Carlson.
Delete“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” Judge Stephanos Bibas ( a Trump appointee) wrote for the 3rd US circuit court of appeals.
DeleteI think it's a scandal that the judges dismiss these cases out of hand, where strong evidence exists (if true), and the affiants therefore cannot be put under cross examination. That would be good for both sides to hear them out and challenge them in an adversarial setting.
DeleteRead his findings. The three appeals court judges considered the 'evidence' in the 200+ affidavits submitted by Rudy. They found them to be hearsay, describing actions that were not inappropriate or merely accusatory (that is, statements accusing people of inappropriate actions without any specificity. Many of Trump's losses in court were substantive not merely procedural. The problem for Trumpsters is that once they leave the echo chamber they are 'evidence' fades very quickly. See for example, the charges by a so-called expert in sworn affidavit of irregularities in Edison County Michigan. (Edison County does not exist.)
DeleteAnd there are many of the affidavits that are damning. The echo chamber criticism is cheap, and would apply equally to you. In a large group of such things you will find some bad ones and some good ones.
DeleteIf they are damming the why are they being thrown out of court? Do you think all the judges are in on the fraud?
DeleteYou say their is massive evidence and yet every court has found that to not be true. Do you know something the courts do not? Do you have evidence that Rudy or that other psychopath do not have?
Serous question, are all the judges and election officials in on the fix? Or are you repeating baseless and false stories (a description based not on my opinion but of the conclusion of election officials, the courts and the DOJ).
I don't think there is a conspiracy, just lots of people acting individually dishonestly in their shared goal (left and some right) to ensure Orange Hitler does not win. I don't think civil courts are the place to decide this, they are setup to hear allegations one at a time where each shows substantial damage and where there is an obvious remedy. The legislatures must deal with this after a full audit.
DeleteExcept that is not the law or the process. And these courts have always heard and ruled on election challenges. And if doesn’t like lower court rulings he can try to take his case the Supreme Court. But that is how it works. The people voted and it he has allegations of fraud / irregularities he has to prove it.i
DeleteIf he has evidence of fraud he must come to the court with compelling evidence that their were issues with the election. And he hasn’t. All he has said is “I have massive proof of fraud”. And yet has not presented any of the proof in a court of law.
And I would be willing to bet that which ever one of us iis wrong gets a spanking by the other! (Idon’t want to lose focus on why I love your blog)
Cases will proceed and wind up in the Supreme Court, I am sure. But the founders built into the constitution political means to correctly choose a winner if they believe the voting was not representative of the will of the people.
DeleteIs this parody? If there is an "800% voter turnout" then I'm sure you'll have great sources for that? And I'm sure Bill Barr is now also a deepstate plant?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUF9y80769s
Also, what am I supposed to do apart from laughing if they are consistently walking into rakes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-nblE8ps2M
If you want to jump on the Q-Anon train, fine. Just please let me know in advance. Would be a shame though, I always thought your texts were fantastic.
City of North Muskegon, MI - 781.91%, but it's more complex than that (it's a computation based on incomplete data) - for the complete story see Tim Poole's video - https://youtu.be/ZKgF7Su7aYQ
DeleteAnd, as is usual, rather than countering the evidence I asked for clarification on, you present with unrelated things. Let's stick with my thing first.
Turnout in the city of North Muskegon was 78,1%. This is literally a decimal error.
Deletehttps://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/trump-fraud-claims-make-michigan-clerks-fact-checkers-lies-spread-online
You can even check it for yourself if you like: https://www.co.muskegon.mi.us/DocumentCenter/View/10306/Precinct-Results-11-3-2020
I mean, come on, Julie! It literally took me 10 minutes on Google to find that. There's your clarification. And just looking at that guys Youtube channel, is that what a neutral and fact-oriented news source looks like to you? Come on, that's as agenda driven as it gets.
And looking at how these lawsuits for Trump are going right now (see the second video), pretty much all of it is unsubstanciated hearsay. For heavens sake, all the recounts he requested turned out bad for him, even with all the vote observers being there. All these claims seem like made-up bullshit to cling to power...and maybe sometimes it really is as simple as that.
Your links check out, it looks that one was a typo. Are the other dozen coming in at over 100% also typos?
DeleteYou referred to the 800% Voter turnout, I told you why that was false. If literally the first one the list is false, why don't you have a look at Google instead and see if there is any credible evidence for any of them (besides some right-wing Youtuber ranting about it)?
DeleteThis is the problem with most of these claims. They are easy to put up and take time to disprove. This is just a reminder for you to apply this strict standard of evidence for the accusations as well.
My question was really a question. I did not present that one in my blog article because I had not researched it in depth. However, one of many, even many of many allegations being false does not mean some are not true. I picked a credible one for my blog, sufficient to overturn a state.
DeleteAffirmation versus information is the new normal. Select what you wish.
ReplyDeleteDisputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election.
and from the head of election cybersecurity (both Trump appointees)
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.
select what you wish .......
You're a great example of what I lead with. Willfully blind to the hours and hours of sworn testimony. I'm sorry your news sources are failing you so badly.
DeleteSworn testimonies where? In a court of law before a judge? Or on a piece of paper? The willfully blind one here is you.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit
DeleteGo to that link, and click on United States. Then READ.
DeleteIt's your reading comprehension that seems challenged. The section on US speaks to its admissibility as evidence in court. They are still sworn statements under penalty of perjury.
DeleteWhat part of this do you not understand? - "In American jurisprudence, under the rules for hearsay, admission of an unsupported affidavit as evidence is unusual (especially if the affiant is not available for cross-examination) with regard to material facts which may be dispositive of the matter at bar."
DeleteA 5 year old will have more intelligence and honesty than you do. Christ.
Ok. Let me break it down for you.
DeleteIs signing a false affidavit a crime? Yes it is.
Is an affidavit without the affiant present admissible in court? In most cases no.
What is your problem?
Right. And affidavits even though they are signed under oath, are not automatically credible - and I am not saying that. The US justice system says that. Therefore, the affiants have to physically come to court, show their faces, take the stand, take the oath in front of a judge/jury, be cross examined and THEN they decide whether that affidavit is credible evidence. Otherwise any tom, dick and harry can sign an affidavit and call it evidence and start demanding a ruling in their favor.
DeleteSecondly, the judge presiding over the case will also determine the admissibility of an affidavit. One reason an affidavit may be inadmissible is due to the inclusion of hearsay. Many of the affiants in Trump lawsuits submitted affidavits alleging they heard someone say there was fraud, but didn’t have a first-hand account.
So IN SUM, the judge decides what is credible and what isn’t in accordance with the law. Having a sworn and signed affidavit, means jackshit, even if you believe they are “hard evidence”. What YOU think about it doesn’t matter, what a judge rules it to be, is what matters. And in ALL cases the judges have called what the Trump legal teams have presented to be total bullshit. What is YOUR problem with that, other than being in denial?
Affidavits are more credible than, eg, you, because they are sworn under oath under penalty of perjury. Of course that still means people might lie, but it is less likely. Many of them are not solid evidence of fraud. Many of them are evidence of illegality.
DeleteAffidavits are LESS credible. If you sign a false affidavit and never show up to court, there is really no risk to you as you are not being cross examined. So your affidavit will be thrown out. If however, you do show up, and then the judge finds you are lying, then that carriers a more severe penalty. Trying to spin this to your benefit wont help. This is how it is per law, and there is a reason why it is treated this way in a court of law.
DeleteMore credible than not signing one, silly.
DeleteJulie Julie Julie... if you are going to jump into the discussion, then do some damn research. (And see my coda at the end of this.) The problem with the "huge vote dump" theory is that it would have actually had to create an anomaly in the reported vote totals in Fulton county... and it didn't. Here are some real statistics... spreadsheet available on request. (Source: published vote totals). Biden did 3.7% better overall than Clinton statewide. 3.6% better in Fulton. (He won the state because he did 3% better than Clinton in the 129 counties that Trump won). Total votes grew 20% in counties Biden won vs 2016 and 24% in counties Trump won. Fulton vote total grew 21.8%, similar to the other big 5 metro counties and right in the middle of the statewide range. 30% of Biden's vote in Fulton came from absentee, vs 34.4% statewide. Btw, that 34.4% statewide was identical in counties Trump won and counties Biden won (in total). Finally, looking at total votes divided by voting age population, Fulton was at 62.8%, narrowly above the state average of 61.5% and below former R stronghold of Cobb County at 67.5%. And that 61.5% was 61.8% in counties Trump won.
ReplyDeleteSo the whole "stolen election" argument, if true, would have to have been equally true in the 129 counties Trump won (and are run by Republican county and election commissions) as the 20 counties Biden won. In other words, it's just bullshit.
Finally, I know a lot of the senior state republican movers and shakers personally. Not a one of them believes the "vote was stolen". This is all just jockeying for the 2022 Republican primary season, for who can appeal to the "base", in what promises to be a very bloody civil war. There are two factions in the party... the traditionalists, of which former Gov Nathan Deal was a member, and the Tea Party crowd, of which Gov Kemp is a member. The traditionalists held sway until 2018, when Trump swung all the statewide offices to the Tea Party crowd. 2022 will be a shit show, but great entertainment.
Just on the "huge vote dump" comments: everyone who watches reputable news sources (NY Times, CNN etc) knew well in advance that the Dem voters were far more likely to vote by mail, so during the initial counting there would be a "red mirage". For some states (eg. Florida), counting mail ballots was done weeks ahead of time, so they entered their numbers early and made FL a real nail-biter. But for PA, the Republican government there made it policy (some months ago) to count mail-in ballots after the in-person ballots. Hence the supposed "dump".
DeleteIf the election was being stolen, then how come down-ticket Republicans did so well? This is a sign that voters have had enough of Trump. Heck; if the election was being manipulated, why is McConnell still there?
All the made-up "evidence" is so weak it's not being presented to a court (the lawyers can ge disbarred for crap like that). But all the noise fires up the base and has sent north go $170 million to Trump's new PAC - AND with a default of a recurring donation. No controversy, no donations. Plain and simple.
Finally, this is Trump: a grifter has to grift, and this is his huge parting grift.
Your argument makes no sense. In Georgia especially, but also in other swing states, you just needed a small amount of fraud overall concentrated in certain districts to swing those states. Moreover, because of mail-in voting you could observe which way it was headed and add in just the right amount. I'm NOT saying definitely that's what happened. I AM saying it's certainly in the realm of possibility when dealing with lefty looneys who believe Trump is Orange Hitler.
DeleteYes, of course more Dems were expected to mail-in, which makes it the perfect spot to hide a few extra Biden votes. I don't think there was the same motivation on the down-ticket candidates. They were not Orange Hitler, and much harder to fudge them then to just KISS and go after the top of the ticket. There are many ballots with just Biden filled in and nothing else.
DeleteCareful Julie, left-leaning people might just have you whipped through the streets for making such statements ;)
ReplyDeleteThat actually sounds like fun. Can I be naked?
DeleteOf course! And you'll remain so afterwards when you're locked in the pillory, left at the mercy of the crowd of outraged liberals :D
DeleteThe whole town would have the run of me!
DeleteJust please stop talking about and supporting trump.
ReplyDeleteNo! MAGA!
DeleteDemocrat Lyndon Johnson rigged every election he ran in and won them all.
ReplyDeleteHis advice on how to do it was "Secure the ballot boxes and don't let any body near them" , which is pretty similar to what happened in some states.
Mail in ballots should not be allowed.
He won one election when a box of ballots were found in a mail depot...interestingly they were all for him and overturned the original result.
We are allowed to use online voting in our Ontario Municipal elections and I still get ballots for my kids who moved out years ago!
I didn't use them of course but they can't seem to update the voters lists and that is a problem.
There is no way Biden got that many votes...it doesn't make sense .
Vote in person or don't vote at all.
Agreed. And it's not Dems vs Republicans. It's evil entrenched people on both sides versus honest people (on both sides).
DeleteOh for gods sake... if there was any truth to these allegations, the courts wouldn't be throwing these cases out by the bucketload. And that "Dominion employee" giving evidence? She sounds like an improv comic.
ReplyDeletePlease, get your news from a reputable source, not Fox.
As I mentioned, I listened directly to the sworn testimony of eye witnesses. No Fox. Did you?
DeleteCourts are throwing things out for process and related reasons, not because they've looked at the evidence or doubt the evidence. By definition, if you throw out a case before evidence is presented, you throw it out assuming all the evidence is proven to be true.
NOPE. Courts threw out the cases for lack of evidence. Here is Judge Brann's direct statement when he dismissed the case - "“One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, so much that the court would have no option but to stop the certification even though it would impact so many people. That has not happened.” The full text of his statement is out there, go google it and read it.
DeleteOF course now you'd stick your head in the sand and accuse a REPUBLICAN judge of being biased. Oh and of course you'd claim to know better because you have "listed to sworn testimonies". Your intellectual dishonesty is pathetic.
Judge acted improperly if he dismissed the case without hearing the evidence. It will be reversed on appeal.
DeleteBeing from Toronto I have checked out a lot of the claims. 800% voter turnout is because they compared Detroit Michigan numbers with Detroit Lake area of Minnesota. Twice as many absentee ballots? Yes....IF you compare the primary requests to the actual election results. A spike in results? Mail in ballots...and even if that seems odd, the HAND RECOUNT confirmed the numbers. One other point. Let us assume that there was a way to put a system in place to change the vote. A huge undertaking, and IF you wanted to do that, wouldn't you then also fix the Senate race to give you a majority there? If you take offense to this, I would be glad to report for a spanking to improve my attitude!!
ReplyDeleteYes - the 800% is based on estimates. See answer to previous comment above. Hand recounts are not definitive, as they may be just recounting the fraudulent ballots, as I explained in my piece.
DeleteAnd I don't think it's a huge undertaking. You target Democrat controlled districts in key swing states, and skew it by just a little through many ways. The left were certainly highly motivated. It does not need to be a coordinated strategy, just the usual lefty loonies who encourage looting and rioting at work, each in their own small or big way. Orange Hitler after all.
It used to bother me when you posted things like this but after a while I have come to find it just plain adorable when you try to advise us in our own American politics! It's like watching a little girl play dress-up with her mommy's clothes and make-up......just precious! (I'll bet you look so damned cute as you're typing too. Just wanna pinch your cheeks.)
ReplyDeleteAwwww. That's sweet!
DeleteDude the attorneys in these cases aren't even alleging fraud in court. They are 0 and 39 in court cases. You can read all the transcripts if you like, they have offered no evidence. Also none of those thousands of people have agreed to come to court where they verify your identity and your affidavit claims are punishable. Believe the court documents not faux news and face book. If anybody is getting the wool pulled over their eyes it's you.
ReplyDeleteSworn affidavits are "evidence". That evidence should be vetted and cross-examined. The court cases were thrown out assuming the evidence was true (you can't throw out a case otherwise).
DeleteCriminal defense lawyer here. Affidavits are admissable evidence. But they require testimony in person. It is the Trump legal team's responsibility to produce these witnesses and get them to take the stand. Otherwise they are considered hearsay and will be thrown out and cannot be used to rule. The fact that none of these people have come forward is therefore suspect and is risks perjury. This is the reason Trump lawsuits are failing and your assertions are merely doubts and questions. They dont amount to proof from a legal standpoint.
DeleteThere are penalties if you lie on an affidavit. Makes it more trustworthy than otherwise. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit Mr. Lawyer.
DeleteYes, only matters if those sworn testimonies and cross examinations can be conducted. If the person doesn't take the stand, there is no way to verify the authenticity of the affidavit. Therefore having a million affidavits, won't matter. They are still hearsay. The point is moot, those affidavits are immaterial. Legally speaking. Politically, it is however used to drum up support for what appears to be spurious claims so far.
DeleteYou're speaking of admissibility as evidence in court. I'm speaking about ACTUAL evidence: statements sworn under penalty of perjury. The affiants are all too happy to tell their stories in court.
DeleteThen ask them to come to court and take the stand under oath. If they did that and it was proved beyond a shred of reasonable doubt, then there is no reason for the courts - that too EVERY court in ALL states, to dismiss these cases. The fact is there is no evidence of voter fraud and the point is moot. Case dismissed.
DeleteThe cases can only be summarily dismissed, as they have been, if the judge assumes the evidence presented is true. Ergo the cases were dismissed for other reasons than the veracity of the evidence presented.
DeleteImprove your news sources, you are being lied to.
DeleteThank goodness you can see it, Julie.
ReplyDelete- Often123
You'd have to be blind not to, IMO.
DeleteThe court cases were thrown out for lack of evidence. They aren't trying to enter the affidavits. They aren't trying because they don't want to be disbarred for providing false evidence. In most cases they aren't alleging fraud at all. When you say one thing to the microphone and another to the judge, you were lying to the microphone In one case they were forced to admit the process they used to gather affidavits was inherently designed to gather false affidavits. Seriously go read some if these transcripts, the whole thing is a farce. Right now they are floating declaring martial law, because that's what you do if you are a champion of democracy.
ReplyDeleteI've read a good sampling of the affidavits and the judgments. What you are saying is what one would expect somebody to say had they NOT done their homework and are relying on the news as your source of truth. Be inquisitive! Be skeptical!
DeleteDude I've read 22 court transcripts, and I don't watch the news because I'm not 50 plus. Just BTW "don't trust the news" is what every right wing dictator in history has preached. Trump is not a credible news source. You're believing,and rationalizing, not being objective. Things that go against your internal, and let's be honest, external narrative can be, and in this case very much are, true. Yesterday I bought a lottery ticket, I didn't win, but I also didn't allege that I somehow won without matching any numbers, and that there must have been rampant fraud in the process. Also why would you expect America to vote for President BLEACH? People understand that he bungled SarsCoV2 to such an extent that we are the worst shape in the developed world. I live in Detroit and I still can't cross the bridge. It just turns out Americans aren't a magority crazy right wings zelots, and those if you who are are just going to have to deal with that and go back to saying the quiet parts in private.
DeleteWhy do the people arguing against me never give facts, as I have done in my blog, only invectives? Odd and telling. It's a sign of cognitive dissonance.
DeleteAmericans have always been vocal about their political beliefs. There is nothing wrong with that. The current claims by the president and his followers is different. Donald Trump has trouble with reality. A good example is his insistence that President Obama wasn't born in the United States. To this day he insists that's true. Obama produced a certified birth certificate to prove where he was born. Donald Trump still insists Obama was born abroad.
ReplyDeleteI live in a state that has had 100% mail voting for a decade. Signatures are carefully verified. A couple of years ago I got a letter because my signature didn't match the one on file. I had to prove who I am and send a new specemin signature.
The people you quote are either out-and-out lying or simply deluded.The Democratic party is not some sort of political monolith. It's a loose connection of people from center to left of center. They almost never reach consensus. To imagine that either party could act in a coordinated way to do anything is just dumb. Both Republicans and Democrats form very loose coalitions. Neither party could rig an election if they wanted to.
Even Trump's lacky Attorney General Barr had to announce that there was no fraud substantial enough to affect the outcome of the election. Only blowhards who make money by agitating people who don't know better, and of course Donald Trump have any reason to try to stir things up.
Trump is the only president since the Civil War who has tried to pit Americans against one another. He has agitated his followers to believe that Democrats are the enemy. Every other president has worked to unite the country, not divide it.
In January, our country will once again have a peaceful transfer of power. Our new president will work to unite us again.
They are all lying under penalty of perjury? It sounds like you have dismissed hundreds of people who have come forward without understanding what they are saying.
DeleteThey have not come forward. Those affidavits you keep writing about could be fabricated. They most likely are.
DeleteAnd yet for some reason they wont come to court and take the stand under oath. Because they are paid off by trump to fabricate lies.
DeleteIf their affidavits are untrue they can be charged. No court has yet examined the evidence, they are all summarily dismissing, which can only be done if they assume the evidence is true.
DeleteSee my previous response. Affidavits are not evidence. They are instruments of facts. Summary dismissals occur when instruments of facts are not disputed, but no evidence has been produced.
DeleteYou're splitting some odd hair here. If I witness a crime, and another does as well, and we both swear that we have seen it, that is EVIDENCE in the common sense usage of the term.
DeleteGive 'em hell, Julie. Anonymous (12/04/20 @ 16:39) is either an idiot or a cheater - or possibly both. There has been a treasure trove of sworn testimony, sworn affidavits, surveillance video, etc, all of which is called EVIDENCE. And being a numbers guy, my favorite evidence is the statistical proof that indicates these late surge of Biden votes have human fingerprints all over them.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, our founders saw fit for a dispute of this nature to be decided the court system - not the media.
Partially courts, but also state legislatures and congress.
DeleteSometimes we should take a look around with our own eyes to see the truth. Every major U.S. city has taken to the streets by the thousands to protest against Trump at one point in time. In the meantime, Trump supporters had to fly people in to Portland from out of state to bolster their movement. The disdain America and the world moreover has for Trump is palpable.
ReplyDeleteThis whole debacle has been predicted of Trump since day one. One number i bet you haven't looked at is his lawsuits. Litigation is the true source of his power and the reason he's been able to stay afloat for so long. When one businessman files 1900 suits and counting, it becomes quite clear that businessman is in the business of grifting.
Those Trump rallies sure seemed big to me. And a heck of a lot of votes. More than Obama I believe?
DeleteToo bad he wasn't running. Biden got more not because we love Biden but sensible people see Trump for the conman that he has always been. Exactly what is your attraction?
DeleteOr did he get more?
DeleteSo let me get this straight... Biden organized poll workers, the sec. of state, governor and the republican Georgian state government to throw the election for Biden? What drugs are you on? The large number of Biden votes “dumped” have been explained time and time again, with Democrats voting by mail and republicans voting in person. In person votes wer counted first and mail in votes were counted later. If there was an actual impropriety, as in votes suddenly showing up with no know cause thss ast would be challenged in court, not 4chan. I understand republicans now realize that it was stupid to let Democrats bank votes by mail while republicans depended on people to get out in a pandemic and vote, but that’s literally what happened. Pretty stupid I know but wait it gets better... then the same president says ‘what’s up with all the democrat votes by mail? I was winning when we only counted in person voting... “ I understand if you haven’t been paying attention from up north, but Democrats have been getting close in Georgia for a while with Stacey Abrams (a black woman in Georgia) almost winning the governorship despite running against the Secretary of State who manipulated the election as it happened. As far as the entire case
ReplyDeleteoverall, I love the “prove the negative” argument. Sorry that’s not how the law works. It does not fall on the states to prove the election was not full of wide spread fraud, it is up to the offended parties to show how they were cheated. The states lay out the argument ahead of the election by publishing how they are conducted and then are transparent when carrying them out. There were approved republican and democratic poll watchers in every state as required by law. If there weren’t, Trump would have won more court cases as there would have been a violation of law. We are talking about Judges appointed by Trump turning down his cases. The one win Trump had was insisting poll watchers should be closer so they could properly spread the corona virus. Nice win Don! A president who announces weeks ahead of the election he will question the outcome, has his allies swear bad things happened, and creates photo ops with people holding binoculars doesn’t change that. I understand you don’t trust the news, but youtubers that use logical fallacies like the straw man argument aren’t a good source either. It is always easier to create havoc than order which is why the press has always freaked out about Trump and his idiocy. I don’t need a bar graph to illustrate the number of people Trump killed by downplaying the virus, that is plain for the world to see. Testing doesn’t cause more COVID deaths and the accusation that doctors make up COVID deaths is beyond stupid. Go ahead and send your money to Trump. That is the real reason he is bringing up these accusations of voter fraud. $200 million so far just by inflaming his base with no evidence of WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD. Of course there are thousands of cases in every election which seems like an overwhelming amount of evidence, but out of 160 million votes it’s pretty damn good. Often the charges sound sensational and meaningful, they are meant to. Trump lost fair and square and it’s over. No “witness” who signed an affidavit will change that. It is not a real risk for an average person to sign an affidavit because what someone says they saw cannot be easily proven wrong in court. Rarely will anyone take the time to prosecute a hapless, brainwashed follower of a dictator wanna be. I live in a vote by mail state (not province) and we have had no issues with our voting system which has become a model for the country. Reality is Democrats want all people to vote and republicans wants to stop people from voting. Republicans know the “silent majority” isn’t on their side. Trumps baseless claims are a threat to democracy everywhere, even I Canada... #stopthestupid
Wow. What a word salad dump. I accept your surrender.
DeleteNow you do sound like Trump. If you can’t argue against the facts just claim victory.
DeleteNice display of intellectual laziness Julie. Didn't even bother to read his post haha.
DeleteHa ha! There are precious few facts in that dumpster fire of a word salad. Still waiting for somebody, anybody, to actually address the blog subject.
DeleteMaybe we are tired of having to debunk every story that hair dye sweating Giuliani comes up with. Sharpie gate, dominion voting machines, and the rest of these stories have been debunked. https://www.gpb.org/news/2020/12/04/fact-checking-rudy-giulianis-grandiose-georgia-election-fraud-claim
DeleteI know - fake news! We can’t trust any media or public officials, we need to take the word of a Trumpian sycophant who would never lie cause she could go to jail. Sorry, I just can’t see the local election officials getting word that the illegal ballots has arrived in the suitcases. Telling everyone to go home and then secretly counting them. If that actually happened the county official would be up on charges as they would be unable to explain why they did what they did. This would be an open and shut case in court. Oh and how does Biden get everyone to do all this? Who is delivering the illegally counted ballots and who is organizing all of this? This would indeed be a grand conspiracy the likes of which Q could not even imagine. The problem is conspiracy theories are easier to come up with than they are to debunk. Especially with people who only trust the conspiracy makers themselves.
We agree it should be investigated. Nobody is claiming a grand conspiracy, just a lot of individual fraud that adds up.
DeleteTrump is claiming the grand conspiracy.
DeleteIt's possible, but unlikely in my opinion.
Delete"I love the “prove the negative” argument. Sorry that’s not how the law works. It does not fall on the states to prove the election was not full of wide spread fraud, it is up to the offended parties to show how they were cheated." This! Exactly!
DeleteIf you look at the gpb reporting it has been investigated and the official said there is nothing to see here. Votes are dumped when they are dumped and come in different ratios. A large last dump for Biden is not surprising given the voting patterns of vote by mail and the order ballots were counted. Again just by local officials looking at the video, explaining what the briefcases are, and explaining why this is all normal and their bosses saying they are correct means this fraud would go all the way up the the republican Secretary of State. That on its own is not just unlikely but makes no sense. What is the motivation for them to get Biden elected? He’s not a never Trumper and he knows if he could deliver Georgia to Trump he would be a hero. Again who are these sneaky democrats running around with briefcases full of fraudulent ballots. How did they know exactly which counties to add votes to and in which states? The night before the election polls were showing most states to be a blowout for Biden. Also, why wouldn’t they hand the senate and local state offices to the Democrats. Sorry when look at on it’s face there is no way this makes sense. Your whole argument is based on explainable anomalies and the idea that people wouldn’t lie under oath or in an affidavit.
DeleteDan - who says it was? I think there is plenty of evidence of procedures not being followed, of poor security, of gaping holes, and yes, of fraud as well.
DeleteOh, well, if the official in charge of it says there's nothing to see, I guess we just move on? How selectively gullible you are.
DeleteI do not dispute mail-ins would heavily favour Biden, hence the perfect spot to inject a few extras to push an election over the top. It is exactly where one would expect to see it.
And the polls were proven massively wrong. In and of themselves suppression polls supported uncritically by the media.
Yeah, here is the star witness that Giuliani chose to provide some of that credible "testimony" you find compelling: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mellissa-carone-wright-rudy-giuliani-trump-voter-fraud-detroit-michigan_n_5fcb94e9c5b63a1534523506
DeleteClassic smear tactics.
DeleteYou're right. Just like when the news is "fake" because some reporter played a clip of Trump saying and doing something bad that he now wants to deny, it was a smear to play actual video of this witness testifying or to look up and report her police record. How unfair and deceptive.
DeleteHer testimony was grand! We do not know the background of the smear, but you seem ready enough to believe the worst based on some smear campaign. People like you are the target of such campaigns.
DeleteJulie you amaze me with your wisdom and you don't even reside here. Those leftist idiots that you allow to comment on your site are just that idiots. Trump has done more to bring this country back to its greatness than any other president to this day. The part they hate is that he can't be bought by any of the deep state. He has given up more to be our president than any other president too date. He doesn't even take the 500,000 dollar salary he donates it to charities. It is true what you say why else did the democrats hire 300 lawyers before the election date and go to the different states and change the laws in the states on voting and allowing mail in votes and not requiring signature checks. Changing how long votes could go after the election day votes and still be counted.
ReplyDeleteThere is going to be a supreme court decision on Pennsylvania changing their laws in court and not going through the legislature. This is going to affect alot of states if they rule that this is unconstitutional and not following the constitution. There is no way anyone can win an election with more votes than Barrack Obama by campaigning from their basement. There is plenty of evidence of fraud along with truckloads of ballots being driven from New York to Pennsylvania along with jump drives missing from machines(46) to be exact and even now the video you mentioned. 75 million people voted for Trump and 90 percent believe that this election was manipulated on a very large and wide scale making it very hard to prove. If this would have been the other way I guarantee you they would be screaming Russia did it. Just like they did last time.
If you think this is about getting Biden in as President your wrong. This is to get the leftist Kamala Harris in to take over when Pelosi invokes the 25 amendment and removes him from office. This is getting really scary as she would then have the power to take this country and make it a socialist country. God Help us!!!!! You really should watch Hannity or Laura Ingram or Tucker. There has been a lot of recordings from project Veritas that caught Jeff Zuckerberg (Mr. Potato Head) off guard directing his Minions on CNN to not report on any of the Biden Scandle or any of the people that have come forward about the voting frauds.
Keep up and do us a favor and don't give the leftist idiots any comment time as it just pisses off the normal people like us. I would love to be able to talk to you by phone sometime as your a firecracker and one that is very sharp and understands this political conundrum. The leftists and most democrats know only only one thing and that is how much they Hate Trump. God Bless Firefighter Steve
Thanks Firefighter Steve. Notice how the lefties never address the argument I put forward, they always pivot to some talking point they heard on MSNBC. That's why I publish them, I think it bolsters the case when that's the best they can do.
DeleteToo bad millions more voted for Sleepy Joe.
DeleteOr did they?
DeleteWait... small disconnected frauds in the swing states that add up to millions of votes??? You say there’s no grand conspiracy or it’s at least unlikely, but millions of more votes were fraudulent for Biden? Can’t have it both ways. Is this a widespread conspiracy that changes millions of votes and involves thousands of people or small frauds that just creates a minor electoral college (illegitimate) victory? Wake up! The American people chose Biden because they are tired of Trump only caring about himself and golfing while thousands needlessly die of COVID. Not that it matters to you being much safer in Canada with actual leadership on COVID. I still recall you getting spanked for not taking COVID seriously and if more Americans faced the same consequences we may have had fewer deaths.
DeleteDon't need millions to reverse the winner, just a few tens of thousands in key districts. The fraud is simple enough, it's just stuffing ballot boxes. What enables it is lax controls that we see all over this election.
DeleteMiss Julie, how often do you wear hosiery? Stockings, pantyhose etc. You should. And we’d like to see.
ReplyDeleteNot so much nowadays. Sometimes I stay in my pyjama pants all day
Deletelong while working. Ha ha!
I figured as much. Something I’ve noticed myself about this bloody pandemic. The ultra-femme, power attire women of last year have now become just way too “comfy”. I don’t like it.
DeleteDavid also. He's threatened me with a spanking if I don't get out of my pyjamas. That's why I keep wearing them ;-)
Delete“Spanked for wearing pyjamas, forced into hosiery and heels”. That would be a good title for your next post Jules ;)
DeleteI'd rather just have repeat spankings. My PJs are very comfy (p.s. sitting on a very sore butt, wearing PJs, this morning!)
DeleteEvery. Single. Case. Has. Failed. In. Court. Period.
ReplyDeleteTrump is having his opportunity to contest the election unimpeded and the courts are rejecting every single argument. There has been no compelling and verifiable evidence of fraud. People saying and writing things in the news are not under oath and are allowed to say whatever they want. There is no legal penalty for lying to the general public. However, every time these people making the fraud arguments go to court and are under their arguments just fall apart. This is because the people claiming fraud are lying.
Trump lost. It's over. Let it go.
Just FYI - I will never visit you blog again. I enjoyed your blog for a long time and visited it frequently until I saw you posting US political crap a few months ago. Your politics were a big turn off for me, but came back tonight to see if I might enjoy your writing again, but I discovered you are now much further down the rabbit hole. I feel sorry for you.
- A Concerned US Citizen
Well, don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
DeleteHahaha dont worry dude, same here. Her content is also pretty stale these days anyway. This bitch is unhinged. She moonlights as well put together and intelligent. Just another trashy trumpster.I now read her blog solely to take pleasure in seeing the depths to which she will sink. You know after all I love seeing TRUMP supporters CRY, it's my daily medicine, my weekly energy, my monthly inspiration and my yearly motivation. Their loss is the only reason i'm still alive, i was born to love and enjoy the failure that they have achieved.
DeleteSeek help.
DeleteHello Julie,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your opinion. You have no say in the outcome, so you speak in more neutral ideas. I wish others could see what you see. And that people wish to dispute it do so with out resorting to name calling.
Thank you
I don't post the ones that are nothing but name calling, and there are many. It shows the unhinged left in a bad light.
DeleteAnd you think your posts show you in a....good light? hahahaha. Keep the delusions and the dumbassery coming Julie. You making an ass of yourself is more fun than spanking anybody.
DeleteIncivility is highly unattractive.
DeleteSo while the Dems stuffed the ballot boxes for Biden in multiple states, they managed to lose eleven house seats and only pick up one senate seat. I guess when you're trying to steal an election, it's best not to make it too obvious.
ReplyDeleteThey weren't Orange Hitler. It's all the TDS babies who individually focussed on Trump.
DeleteTDS babies? Am sorry I dont understand conspiracy theorist lingo.
Delete"Trump Derangement Syndrome"
DeleteBut if you're saying it was TDS babies who individually focused on Trump, then you are admitting that their votes are legitimate. Where is the fraud?
DeleteNo, TDS babies who did whatever they could to cheat.
DeleteIf they were cheating, they would have stolen the Senate too. Those TDS babies are pissed at the Rep senators who failed to impeach Trump. No way they include them on their anti-Trump ballots.
DeleteNor necessarily. It was a big scramble in the middle of the night when they realized how much behind they were.
DeleteIf it wasn’t coordinated effort / fraud on a grand scale (which I believe is what you said earlier) how did they all realize In the middle of the night to just cheat a little In their own electoral district and that numerous other districts in multiple states will also be cheating just enough to have Biden win? And when they were filling out their fake biden ballots in GA why didn’t they throw so more in to flip a seat? And if this wasn’t some grand conspiracy then how did they have all these extra blank ballots out ready to go and to be snuck into the counting?
DeleteThis post and your comments might be your best piece of fiction / fantasy.
Grand scale yes, coordinated only a bit and very loosely. The loose goal of all, sufficient to galvanize some folks into cheating and others into turning a blind eye, right and left, was only the Orange Man. They knew how many in each state because the results were flowing in, and there was an expected mass influx of mail-ins late, expected to favour Biden already, to hide the extras in. They had to shut down counting, in numerous swing states, because the gap was wider than expected. Don't know if that is true, but it's consistent with the facts and needs to be investigated, though I doubt there is the political will to do so.
DeleteFrom the UK, so non partisan. The Georgia video has already been widely debunked. Of the many court cases Trump has bought the overwhelming majority have been thrown out. When in court and when asked specifically whether Rudy was alleging fraud he has said no. Now it isn't beyond the realm that some small offences have occurred, but if this fraud was as perfectly instituted as many suggest one has to wonder why the Democrates managed to lose ground in the Senate and fail to make in-roads in the house. From the outside looking in, the President is doing exactly what he said he would. It is hard for us to accept loss abd rejection, and when so many are invested in him hard for them, too. Yet, the election is very unlikely to be overturned. I think the focus now needs to be on healing the country, which has so many good and decent people from both sides of the political divide. The strange reality is that the Republic party is well placed to retain the Senate, and in 2022 they are within touching distance of reclaiming the house. Whilst Trump has been dethroned, you have much to be positive about. Come 2024, perhaps a candidate from their ranks will emerge that can unite and inspire in ways that perhaps Mr Trump did not? I wish both sides well. Above all I just want to see you folks united and back to being an inspiration and an example.
ReplyDeleteThe debunking seems to have holes, I remain unconvinced.
DeleteThere are many credible allegations of fraud.
I agree with you on the rest!
Could we leave Politics out of this blog, this is a place to share your inner most desire and feel safe. I understand it is your blog, just come here to read what others experience in spankings and your views on spankings that is all. Jack
ReplyDeleteI write whatever the muse tells me to. Sorry.
DeleteDon't be sorry, it is a free world, but if I decide to spank another woman, you would be the one I would take across my lap, your bare bottom would be the same red that the MAGA hats are, that is if I ever wanted to. Jack
DeleteWell I would hope you wanted to, Jack. I am told I am very spankable, look good, and am very vocal and squirmy while across a man's knee.
DeleteIn the United States, you need to show an ID to cash a $2.00 check at a bank. You need to show an ID to deposit cash. You need to show an ID to get on an airplane. But you don't need to show an ID to vote? What kind of BS is that? The answer is that an ID requirement would make it much more difficult to rig elections and commit voter fraud.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely.
DeleteTrue, it would, but convenience is not a legal rationale for imposing a new qualifier. Your other ID examples are things that are not rights of citizenship. They are conveniences, business transactions, or voluntary acts with private businesses who can require whatever legal process they wish. A vote is a transaction between a citizen and their government, and that government guarantees their right to vote whether they have 5 IDs or none.....as long as they are registered and their signatures match. Anything less could be construed as a subtle, or in some cases where obtaining an ID might not be so easy for someone, a not-so-subtle form of voter suppression.
DeleteI think it's reasonable to impose a system that can be used to prove you are a citizen eligible to vote, and voting in the place where you are living. It is the law, after all, and should have some verification method. If you are too dumb to fill in the required forms, you are too dumb to vote.
DeleteWell, let's recall that the biggest demographic difference between Trump supporters and everyone else is education level. You really think that literacy tests would be a *good* thing for your side? Seems like a great strategy for the current Republican party. Right up there with discouraging mail-in voting. How'd that work out?
DeleteSo therefore odd that it is the Democrats who resist voter ID on the absurd basis that it would disenfranchise their voters because getting an ID is "hard".
Delete>>>>>So therefore odd that it is the Democrats who resist voter ID on the absurd basis that it would disenfranchise their voters because getting an ID is "hard".<<<<<<
Delete>sigh< Ya know, this is why I wanted to just stay out of this. You are just unaware of what goes on here.
Also, registering to vote DOES require forms and voters do need to be registered. Do you know the process here? It varies by state you know.
As for voting requirements based on intelligence? LOL, Dear, I was just stating what the law IS, NOT what I'd want it to be. If it was MY process, my voter eligibility test would fail (at least initially) more than half the population....red, blue, and purple! And ironically, a key part of MY test would be a working understanding of how our government functions. So ironically, legal immigrants who had to pass a test for citizenship, like my Rosa, would be far more likely to pass my test than a slew of people born here. And, no offence but you'd fail on the first question: are you a US citizen? LOL
Not even sure what you're arguing...
DeleteI don’t know if there is wide-spread election fraud or not. I am guessing not. I am positive there are always some shenanigans going on, but that it’s limited to local precincts. Ballot harvesting is always ripe for abuse. If mail in ballots are so great, we should also have mail drug tests.
ReplyDeleteFraud or not, most voters think it goes on. And the loss of trust is more of a problem than fraud. With the numerous ways of voting, each offers a unique chance to be exploited. I would favor a nation-wide system of voting via a secure network like Mastercard/Visa have. No one has ever hacked it.
Yes, no reason not to put in a secure system with strong voter I'd. I'm sure some blockchain or whatever could do it. People seem unmotivated to try.
DeleteThank you Julie. May the good Lord bless you
ReplyDeletejj
Blessings
DeleteThank you Julie, once again when America is stumbling along Canada helps out. I have refrained from much political debate because as the saying goes " There are none so blind as he who will not see". There are so many who think they are so smart because some $10 words where a .50 word will do, but when challenged immediately fall back on name calling, lines and innuendo. Our political system is a mess and needs to be completely revamped. Please do not let these bad mannered people bother.
ReplyDeleteThank you, joe!
DeleteI am thankful that you continue to share so much of yourself. And the more you share the more your beautiful self shines so brightly. You make our world a better place. peter peter
ReplyDeleteThank you peter peter!
DeleteIt's me again. Interestingly your recent post and recurring interest in American politics made me curious about Canada. I assumed that since Canada is perceived as fairly stable and progressive that your own governmental and social issues must be so well-handled that boredom with your own politics has led you to be so engulfed in US politics. But was that assumption ever wrong! Just a few quick searches revealed a plethora of ills plaguing The Great White North. So it seems like there would be plenty for you to focus on correcting in your very own backyard. Which made me wonder: why, as a Canadian, haven't you ever written about Canada? I don't recall a single post.
ReplyDeleteI'm not as religious as you seem to be, but I am familiar with something that might be of interest: Matthew 7:3-5.
As for this topic, I have learned that debate is pointless. It's not a matter of argument, it's a matter of belief. And beliefs are difficult to change.
My US audience is 10x my Canadian one, and I think the US sets the tone for the free world. Currently Canada is lost to the woke progressives. I support the only federal political leader fighting it, Max Bernier. I had a post about him a while back.
DeleteI think saying debate is pointless is a copout. It's the only way we advance.
Well, two things:
Delete1: Among Trump's pet slogans, (like "make America great again", "drain the swamp", "fake news", "build a wall", "grab 'em by the pussy") is "America First". You're a Canadian. He has no use for you. And if you believe in such stringent nationalism then your propensity to concern yourself with American politics over Canadian politics is downright treasonous. You could end up being the target of a "lock her up" chant if you're not careful and the arch-conservatives get their way in Canada. LOL
and 2. While saying 'debate is pointless' CAN be a cop-out, in this case, it really isn't. It's an objective evaluation of the effort/reward ratio. I am older than you with a very bad back, and frankly weary. If I'm going to expend energy on something that will require effort, time, and cause discomfort, I could debate you here or I could trim my toenails. Both will be unpleasant. BUT, with effort my toenails WILL end up all nice and neat and pretty. Effort here will likely result in nothing. All one has to do is look at your responses to others. And even if it did, no offence but changing your mind won't affect anything here, since you can't vote here. So...... I'll pass.
Oh and you are doing it again. You are getting comments from two extremes that offer nothing of value. "Way to go, my hero" or "shut up you stupid bitch" may seem very different, but they are alike in that neither contribute anything to the argument. Yet you bask in the former and revile the latter.
No, avoiding this morass is not a cop-out, it's just a better use of time.
Trump argues that each country should put itself first, and help others next. Seems reasonable to me.
DeleteI value different points of view. Occasionally there's a nugget amidst the vitriol.
By America first, he means white people first.
DeleteUnfortunately, here in Canada our Conservative Party has degenerated into a pale imitation of your Republican Party, and lots of people up here get their “news” from Fox. If Canadian conservatives had their way, Canada would resemble one of your red states. That’s why it’s not uncommon to see Canadians sporting MAGA hats.
ReplyDeleteAwesome. Conservatism, Trumpism, Right wing populism, alt-rightism and white identity politics should be completely destroyed and disenfranchised. As a non white immigrant to Canada I couldn't have asked for more. But I know there is plenty of work to do in Canada to push it to become more and more liberal. And that will be accomplished in the coming years whether you like it or not. For starters Trudeau is admitting more than 1.2 million immigrants over the next 3 years.Although I think during a pandemic it is going to be difficult, its a good pledge. And most of them, if not all, of course non white. Am sure that rubs you the wrong way haha. You only wish someone like Trump and that asshole Stephen Miller, could torture, uppend families and destroy people's dreams only because their skin color wasn't white, here in Canada. But that wont happen haha. You'd have to make a choice Julie. Stay here and get in line and correct yourself, or fuck off to Antartica were it is as cold as your heart and WHITE as fuck all over.
DeleteI just saw this after I typed my responses. LOL. How perfect! Problems with conservatives in Canada? Dear, you obviously have your work cut out for you. So be a good patriot and get busy changing things in Canada. Your country needs you. ;-)
DeleteAnonymous: what does skin colour or race have to do with anything? Typical bully lefty move to accuse anybody you don't agree with of racism. Sorry, it doesn't work. I think all identity politics should be completely destroyed.
DeleteSorry kd, I have a big audience in the US and choose to use my voice there as well as Canada. Love that it seems to make you so hot under the collar. Ha ha!
DeleteSkin color has everything to do with Trumpism. His Number 1 issue is cutting immigration - not just illegal immigration, but legal immigration too. HE wants the country to be white and remain white. Hence his comments about shit hole countries etc., Hence his appointment of a white nationalist like Stephen Miller who does everything to make an immigrants life miserable. I know this as I was an immigrant (legal) one in the US before I moved to Canada. Hence anyone who supports trump, is yes, racist. Its got nothing to do with being on the right. ITs got everything to do with being on the side of Trump. Aka Right wing populism.
DeleteHot? Lol. Maybe in the past. Too tired now for expending that much emotion. I just happen to have a kind of boring day going on and this has been an entertaining diversion. Your choice of what to focus your attention on doesn’t mean a thing to me..... other than demonstrate a seeming reluctance to address your own country’s ills. You keep doing you, hon.
DeleteAnonymous, you just keep insisting on bringing race into the question of immigration. Putting "America First" means ALL Americans, regardless of race.
DeleteI'll take it as a compliment, kd, that you want me taken off the field. ;-)
DeleteJulie: Sweetheart, I'm not looking to to take you off the field, but as a Canadian meddling in American politics you're more like an ineligible receiver. Politically, you make a better mini-skirted cheerleader......even if you do always end up rooting for the wrong team. LOL. Anyway, this has been fun but today was an anomaly of free time for me. Tomorrow it's back to business..... after a good night's rest.
DeleteI appreciate your input, kd, even if wrong-headed ;-)
DeleteWell done, Julie! We appreciate you!
ReplyDeleteGracie
DeleteWell written and researched, Julie. I hope you are wrong. You must be an attorney.
DeleteThanks. You'll note I did not draw any conclusions, only say that on the basis of what I presented, deeper investigation quickly is in order and the public must be informed for the good of all.
DeleteYour blog, you get to write what you want to. As long as you don't skinnydip in nutty conspiracy theory waters any more often than you have so far, I'll keep checking for more relevant content fairly regularly. It's been a great year on that front.
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, I'll pass on this one, just the same as I'd skip it if you decided to devote a blog entry to saying there was no moon landing or the holocaust didn't happen. You're falling for a big public con by a petulant sociopath, and it makes you look surprisingly gullible to the vast, vast majority of your readers. But nobody on the internet has ever talked anyone else out of a strongly-held belief in a nutty conspiracy theory, and I doubt anyone will break that streak here.
Thanks for the exceptionally good content before this post, and the exceptionally good content that I'm sure is to follow.
You're welcome.
DeleteOh Julie, your facts aren’t reality. Your delusional Trump fixation is in need of an intervention. Perhaps David could whip your ass daily until you repent or Biden is inaugurated. Frequent reports on his progress would be nice.
ReplyDeleteGot a spanking tonight... and a good sexing afterwards!
DeleteI am just a spanko Julie, so my comment has no opinion on the post content.
ReplyDeleteAll what I saw in another spanking scenario as follows:
Talking politics again young lady, you are in for another spanking and corner time during the next Sunday dinner at your parents home.
Thanks for posting on this topic. I agree that the goings-on that have been brought to light deserve, truly require, further scrutiny.
ReplyDeleteWhat's especially disgusting to me is how the mainstream news media here in the US, which has devolved over the years into nothing more than a leftist propaganda machine, with very few exceptions refuses to even cover this story.
vic
Yes indeed. But we expected it from them.
DeleteDear Julie
ReplyDeleteI live in Australia and am perplexed by lots of things about the USA, especially Donald Trump’s response to the Covid pandemic. Maybe this had an effect on the outcome of the election.
In regard to your suggestion, made in your first post about the 2020 election, that ‘election impropriety, illegality and outright fraud’ might have occurred, why focus only on the 2020 election? If the USA electrol system does not prevent this from happening then it means that all USA elections need to be investigated, whether it resulted in a Democratic or Repubublicsn win. The issue is not the 2020 result but the electrol system, which to a person like me from a country were we have compulsory voting, seems to make a mockery of democracy.
Objectively, I don't think his response was bad. He did what he could, effectively, at the federal level. The biggest criticism is that he was not enough of a cheerleader re masks, which to me is no-hum compared to the long list he did accomplish.
DeleteVoter fraud has indeed been going on for a long time, by all credible accounts. Kennedy-Nixon is widely acknowledged to have been one such case. It seems to be getting worse and worse, and in very close elections, which are becoming the norm, seems to be reversing outcomes in a significant way.
Indeed, there should be a concerted effort to take steps to ensure it does not happen again. However, it was the Dems who did most of the cheating (their political philosophy is often ends justifying means), and will likely get away with it, so I don't expect anything to be reformed this cycle.
I suppose that in January we will see Kamala Harris laying down the law and spanking Republican senators after their defeat in Georgia.:(
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Heels up Harris? ;-)
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ReplyDeletea month after the American election, Donald Trump still refuses to recognize his defeat. He continues to shout "massive electoral fraud", going so far as to relay conspiracy theories on his Twitter account. His appeals to justice have failed one after the other, for lack of evidence. Despite the multiple recounts of votes made at his request, all the contested states validated their results on Monday, after certification in Arizona and Wisconsin. Even the US Attorney General, Bill Barr, said on Tuesday that he had found no "fraud". This denial of reality is explained by the narcissistic personality of the president.
Everybody knows that narcissism impairs the ability to see reality in such a way that using logic to convince the person who suffers from it is absolutely useless.
A word to the wise is enough!
You have a skewed filter on the world. Broaden your outlook.
DeleteReached Bloggers comment limit at 200 on threaded comments. Sorry for not letting you get the last word in. Thanks for the dance!
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