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| Oh Gosh. There is Dad and Mom watching David give me a spanking on the bare - I wish! |
As backdrop, David and I just signed our DD Contract (full backstory is linked from there as well), which means we have formally agreed he should spank me when I misbehave in certain defined ways. It was entirely my idea. David did have some input into what constitutes misbehaviour, and was a bit more aggressive than I would have been in certain areas, but that's fair enough.
I made sure the Contract gave David leeway in spanking me outside of the home and in front of witnesses. I think the main point of spanking discipline for a grown woman is embarrassment, and that is the most embarrassing manifestation of it. So when I crave this sort of discipline, I am craving that as part of it.
Plus, this whole need of mine to be spanked as an adult likely goes back to the bare bum spankings I received as a child across my Mom and Dad's knees (which were infrequent, mild, and well-deserved). So it's a special fixation of mine to have my parents know my status as a spanked wife, and for them to even participate in some way (if only as passive witnesses to a disciplining, even if I am removed to a different room for it).
David was reticent about all the public stuff, and of involving non-kinky others (such as my parents). The Contract allows for it (encourages it even), but does not require it (he would not have signed if it did).
The number of people we interact with is currently limited owing to Coronavirus. It consists only of we two, my Mom and Dad, and my older sister Sue (five total - which is the current limit in Ontario). We have maintained Sunday dinner at my Mom and Dad's as an area of normalcy amidst the pandemic, and we keep a good distance from Mom especially as she is vulnerable owing to a heart condition.
Sue knows all about my DD Contract. I sent a copy to her for her review. She thinks the entire thing is certifiably insane, and I get it. She's into the kink, but not at all into the "real thing", and the only way she can reconcile it is to believe it's all kink anyways, despite my assurances to the contrary. She thinks I am just lying to her or to myself. It's a question I have wrestled with myself. What comes first, the chicken or the egg? No question there is sexual excitement for me. Is my sexual excitement incidental to the discipline I crave for my own emotional well-being; or do I just crave the sexual excitement and am using this as an excuse to make it even more exciting for me, more a fantasy come true? Of course, it would not occur to me to do it without the sexual excitement aspect, but which is it? Likely an unanswerable question. I just know it makes me feel more emotionally whole, and sexually excites me at the same time, so whatever.
I now want my parents to know about my new situation as well. Both Sue and David think it's a bad idea. But I want it. I told Sue I wanted to spur a discussion on Sunday. Sue said I had better do it without her, as she would be of no help whatsoever. She'd just have to sit there and not say what was on her mind, so she said she would beg off Sunday dinner this week with some excuse.
David thinks it's a bad idea also, telling them about the whole Domestic Discipline Contract thing, but he is hardly one to complain, as it was him who said "and if she does it again, she's getting a spanking" at Sunday dinner referring to the ice cream escapade that started this whole train in motion. It was at my instigation, I admit. He agreed on my request to a little good-natured teasing of me in front of my Mom and Dad, because I begged and he can't resist my big eyes when I do that.
We'd done it before more in a play context and my folks were fine with it, my Dad especially getting a kick out of it and joining into the teasing, as he did again this last time. My Mom did not engage, but she was not upset either.
I suggested to David that I deliberately misbehave while at my Mom and Dad's. Something like carrying out too many dishes at once when clearing, and him warning me about that, and then me doing it anyways, and then breaking a glass. That would be a good spankable offence. He could maybe take me into the upstairs guestroom to spank me, and then we can come down and tell my parents what's up with us. We don't need to mention a formal contract or anything.
David resisted. He said deliberate misbehaviour on my part was not in the spirit of our DD. Yes, yes. But there are exceptions! Without the spanking part, he did grudgingly agree that if I could find the words, then I could explain it to them, as long as I let them know that it was 100% my idea, and not get into any of the kinkier "public" stuff, "sex" stuff, or "ceremony" stuff in my Contract at all.
That whole idea for breaking the glass and all was spawned from a comment exchange I had with Glenmoretales. He was egging me on to do something spankable at my Mom and Dad's, and even promised me some relevant artwork if I carried through. He's the devil! In fact, he told me he already started on the artwork, but nobody asked him to do that, but now it's even harder to back out.
So David is appearing to be shutting me down, but I am feeling rebellious. I have decided that I would carry through on my plan regardless of David's wishes. This is too important to me. David would know exactly what I was doing, of course. By he's not the boss of me. I figured there's a few ways this can turn out.
- He may foil me by saying nothing and spanking me back at home.
- He may explain to my parents exactly what I was up to and embarrass the heck out of me and then spank me back at home.
- He may do #2 above and spank me there (in the guestroom - zero chance of in front of parental units).
- He may think I'm cute and go along with it, and give me my spanking there (in the guestroom). Likely inevitable that I get punished at home as well for the deceit.
- Alternatively, he could just rip up the Contract and say "fuck you" to me - not sure I would blame him.
If he does choose to treat it as something within the confines of our Contract, then for sure, regardless of what else, he'll spank me at home. While the Contract says it's mainly hand spanking, for this I'm pretty sure it would be something more severe, like strap or cane or something, and potentially hours with my nose in the corner. If this happens, I will be a sorry little girl, no doubt. But hey, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Ironically, there's probably no good clause in the Contract that covers this sort of misbehaviour, but I don't think he will care, and I would not raise it or blame him in the least.
Well... wish me luck! A funny kind of luck, because my best case outcome is a hyper-embarrassing spanking in the guestroom at Mom and Dad's, some further embarrassing admissions to them about being a spanked wife, and then the strap or cane back home with like, an entire day in the corner or something!
You don't have to tell me, I already know: dumb spanked wife.
As a fantasy, it's exciting to think about being spanked in front of your parents, or even in the same house. However, there's the matter of consent. Including them in your scene is nonconsensual. From what I understand, they haven't agreed to be involved at all in your DD adventure. That's the problem with any activity like this. It may be very hot to consider the embarrassment of being disciplined in front of people who are not part of the scene. But it's really not right. However if, like your sister, you let them know in advance and they agree, then you have a green light.
ReplyDeleteJust my perspective.
"Consent". There's the word.
DeleteI disagree that "consent" is involved. I'm the only one consenting to anything. My parents would be only very indirectly witnessing. They may take offence to it, but that is a different thing.
DeleteAt any rate, based on all the feedback here, I won't go through with it anyways.
Ok, here is an example of consent. Do you remember the Jodie Foster movie “The Accused”? She plays a rape survivor who brings her rapists to justice. In this movie is a very graphic and very disturbing rape scene. And by “very”, I mean stomach-churning. Anyway, I knew that scene was in the film; I was warned ahead of time, so when I bought my ticket I was consenting to the shocking scene.
DeleteNow suppose there were none of those warnings and it was marketed as a Jodie Foster movie. Parents at the time might consider it a safe movie to bring their kids to, in which cast the did NOT consent to seeing the rape scene.
In both scenarios, Jodie Foster consented to filming the scene (which, I read, took an unexpectedly huge emotional toll on the entire cast and crew). But her consent is secondary here; it’s the people witnessing this that count.
I understand that this is an artificial example and that you’ve changed your mind. But do you see the “consent” thing now?
Maybe it's just a "word thing". In your example, if you assume seeing that out of the blue would inflict psychological damage on you of some sort, then maybe, sort of, if I squint. But there is no "damage" from seeing a wife spanked lovingly by her partner. Yes, you might be offended seeing that. It's like people who want to shut speech down on sensitive topics. "I did not consent to you speaking about conservative values. Ban it!"
DeleteI think I can see your point, too. Your question is “so what is the DEGREE of damage here?” If it’s practically nil, then charge ahead.
DeleteAs an aside, I do believe we should be exposing ourselves to sensitive topics or opposing thoughts. How else do you grow as a person?
Degree of damage is in the eye of the beholder. That's why I would draw the line at physical assault, mostly. Something physical would require consent. But if it's verbal or visual, other than some obvious extreme cases where it would be clear to everybody that severe psychological damage could ensue, then suck it up, buttercup. They have the right to be offended of course, but I won't feel I am violating their rights (though I may be an ass - so I'm just arguing words, because I think we agree otherwise!).
DeleteConsent, in the sense we are talking about it, refers to voluntarily participating in something. The reason you would include your parents is that it would do something for you sexually/emotionally. That makes them participants, albeit in an emotional, nonphysical way. Still, they are involved because it affects you and may affect them.
DeleteI know you've decided to not involve them. But this is a broader issue. The idea of public play is a perfect example of this sort of nonconsensual activity. The people who like to play in public get a thrill out of strangers witnessing whatever it is they're doing whether it's sex or BDSM. The strangers don't get an opportunity to decide whether or not they want to witness it.
It was different when you talked about it with your sister. She already knows the sort of things you do. She could make an informed choice without being shocked by your conversation. Your parents may not be shocked, but you have no way to know and since they've never been involved in your sex life, should probably be kept at a very long arms distance.
I am happy that you decided to keep them out of it. I also hope you understand that any time you include people who are not active, consenting members of your activity, you are doing something they may not want to witness.
I agree, but you can't just go out and ask strangers, "hey, want to see me get spanked?" Well ok - you can I suppose but where's the fun?
DeleteFor me it's not about violating anybody's rights, it's about basic politeness. I think I achieve that when we scene in public by hinting a bit and watching for the reaction. You can tell right away if they don't want anything to do with it. You can also tell if they look intrigued.
For example, once David and I were at a fancy kitchen spot. We were looking at the big wooden spoons and a saleslady came up and asked if she could be of help. We made a little parental spanking reference about the spoon and she got such a horrified look on her face that we shut it all down on the spot. Had she played along, i would have gone a step further with her, hinted it might be used on my husband's bottom for that purpose. If she was still intrigued I'd ask if she wanted to see something like that?
At no point was she consenting, but at every point I thought I was still reasonably polite, and if she took offence at that first mild parental spanking reference, I did not feel guilty at all. That's on her.
We have played like this many, many times. Our success rate is more like 90% (not to go "all the way", but to have a bit of a fun banter that embarrasses david).
Are you ok with that, lion?
OP here. We’re actually an the same page; it’s words that are getting in the way. I’m an Aussie living in the US for 7 years now, and am still tripped up occasionally bu how the language usage differs between both countries!
DeleteAgreeing on what words mean often seems to be 90% of most arguments.
DeleteI agree that a gentle, indirect verbal reference is a good way to test the waters. Some of my more orthodox safety minded friends would disagree with me. But I do think that a gentle reference that won't cause too much offense if negatively received is within my comfort zone. It certainly would humiliate me regardless of the way the person reacted.
DeleteThe bigger question is around what we consider private behavior. For example, is it ever appropriate to discuss one's actual sex practices? It would be in the context of a group meeting socially who all participate in BDSM. It wouldn't be at a cocktail party at work.
Spanking, DD, any sort of behavior that isn't normally practiced in public, is probably not polite conversation. I think this is particularly true in a store. The sales girl has to work there. She has no choice but to wait on you. Taking the lead in a spanking reference, does put her in an awkward position. However if she gives you a knowing smile and make some very indirect reference, then you have an entrée to embarrass the hell out of David.
I think that's the real problem with humiliation play. It isn't so much the person who wants to be humiliated, it's the nonparticipants who fuel the humiliation fires.
In the broad scope of BDSM activies I would be more agreeable, but mild spanking references abound in popular culture and are considered a little wink nowadays, so I can't get too worked up over that.
DeleteCompare
"Oh, he really needs a spanking!"
to
"Yeah, he really needs to be taken home, stripped naked, tied to a spreader bar, have his genitals whipped and hot wax dripped on his balls while a I shove a horse-sized dildo up his ass"
yeah not really a good idea involving the parents.....I think the Sister is fine and even hot but no not the parents...first if they hear him spanking you they may think its abuse and that could lead to something no one wants to think about. Not a great idea
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's a good point. It may be one thing them hearing about me being spanked , but a different thing them actually hearing me being spanked. They may think it abusive for real (I have a pretty high pain tolerance!)
DeleteLong time fan of the site,I have read every page twice, at least!
ReplyDeleteI think that there are many more alternatives than the ones posited in your post.
BDSM is first and foremost a consensual activity and your parents have not given their consent to participate.
Parents have a way of being, parental and they can take the excitement or the rationale out of something with a look or a word.
There are many parental cards that they can play without even trying and with a word they can end the entire thing and if they wish they can also employ drastic measures that you may have not considered. Kink abhors a spotlight and does not do well under scrutiny. You could wind up looking like a nudist in a nunnery.
The alternative lifestyle you are engaging in is an alternative from their lifestyle so when you expose the alternative to them they are faced with not only the kink itself, but also with what they may interpret as the rejection of their paradigm. To do this in any sort of theatrical manner or staged plot is at least a bit reckless.
It may also play as superficial, as a spanking for a broken glass or as a lack of empathy as in a spanking for something serious which should be talked about instead of met with brute force ( because they haven't read the contract or agreed to it or consented to witness any of it).
I don't know them of course but you may be met with " We did not raise you this way " or " this is our home" or " this is not in keeping with the vows we witnessed you make: or worse they could pick up the phone and you have no idea who they could call, anyone from the police to the department of social services; there is no accounting for how they could react to this.
Hearing about it in good humored fun is one thing, seeing it in reality is something completely different.
I am a kinky person but if my son in law raised a hand to my daughter in my presence you would not be reading this. You are asking David to run a serious gauntlet, he has to face those people regularly as your protector and provider.
Why not have a very serious spanking BEFORE you go over to their house then when they see you wince when you sit down, you can tell them all about your contract without them having to see or hear what they haven't consented to?
I really don't get this "consent" thing. If a guy spanks his wife in front of me, I would not consider that I had not "consented". I would be worried if SHE had consented. I might be offended (well, not me, somebody else!), but no consent would have been violated.
DeleteBut I agree with ALL your other points. Very wise.
But one question re your daughter. If you knew she wanted it, like in a formal DD contract with your son-in-law, entirely her idea, and she wanted to be spanked in front of you, would you be ok with witnessing a mild bare bottom spanking?
I would NOT want to see it, especially if were erotic for them, I don't want to see it . it;s like a public display of affection thing. About the consent thing. Suppose that you have invited a couple to your house to play cards and unbeknownst to you, they are enema enthusiasts, and they excuse themselves for a few minutes ostensibly to use the bathroom and one of them comes back clenching her bowels and gingerly sits back down at the table..... they mention a contract but she says that she realy must excuse herself again and the husband says Uh Uh 10 more minutes young lady. you can see that we are at least treading upon awkward. If you look up BDSM on line all of the beginner books and primers ( you sort of went from novice to very advanced quite a few years back) contain provisos that ALL involved are there by their own choosing, exceptions for clothing stores, and sex shops, tac shops. I am also very impressed that you put up all of these comments that didn't go your way and answered every one of them. You are a champion!
DeleteWell, I guess wanting to see that or not is a personal thing. I would be fine with seeing a married niece or nephew spanked (don't have kids).
DeleteThe enema thing would be hilarious, although maybe a bit messy if in my house! But I recognize I'm hardly typical.
I never have agreed with that sentiment. We often have involved "unsuspecting" others. You do a little hint, and if they recoil you stop. But if they seem interested you do a bit more. Rey high success rate of everybody having fun.
This is a little different than BDSM. It's DD, so wife spanking "for cause". Oh I know it's not for everybody, and it is sexy for me, but my primary motivation is the emotional dimension of being taken in hand in this way with my parents' full knowledge.
You hint, and if the hint is rejected, you stop.
DeleteThat is consent right there!
You were right in an earlier reply to me; this is a word thing we’re getting hung up on here. We are definitely on the same page!
Yay! "Consent" is nowadays what the poor boys need when they make out lest they be #metoo'd: "may I now unbutton the top two buttons of your blouse and rest the palm of my hand on your left breast over your bra?"
DeleteI hope you are listening to David, your sister and friends here. think twice what you want to do and if it's right or not. You might upset your parents in a way you don't like.
ReplyDeletearchedone
Yes, Sir. That is penetrating my thick head!
DeleteWhat's the rush?
ReplyDeleteLet the heady emotions of all of this settle down for a while and then see how you feel.
Remember, you and David stepped onto this moving train with the full knowledge and context of everything. By the sound of it, your parents aren't even aware there is a train.
Slow down, enjoy the ride and see how things pan out. Take a few weeks to warm your parents up to the concept. Always remember: you get one chance to make a first impression.
I like moving quick! And they do have a bit of a warmup already and seem open, and they are very open and liberal in their views in general. So they know there is a bit of a train. But I guess I don't want to do anything manipulative or deceitful regarding them.
DeleteYour parents are likely to see it as a kink and as the intelligent informed people they seem to be are likely to react with anything between mild shaking of their heads to wondering aloud why David didn't begin to discipline you a long time ago. Saying all that however I would privately tell at least one of them before the spanking. That way they will be ready for it and have a chance to react appropriately. Assuming they don't see it as abuse, they will probably be supportive of David taking you in hand. After all, didn't they do that themselves?
ReplyDeleteAlan
I am thinking of David and I sitting down with both of them and me explaining it to them. They ARE very open to different lifestyle choices, and I'm pretty sure they will be ok with it once they are sure it is at my instigation and what I want.
DeleteAnd yes, the height of hypocrisy if they don't support David spanking me, as they spanked me themselves, both of them!
How about this Julie.
ReplyDeleteI will post a comic next week based on the scenario, but of course with my own piece of 'artistic licence to the story.
It's a comic so we can stretch it a bit to fit in with your fantasy without you actually doing the scene.
Let me know what you think of it and then you can decide whether you want to pull it off in reality and how far you want to go.
Perhaps this Sunday you can intentionally 'let it drop' in the conversation that David did spank you when you got home last week. Of course you can hold back on the details and gave their interest or curiosity.
We've decided that David and I will talk with my parents about my DD. At the end, assuming everything goes well, he's going to make me tell them about my considering the broken glass thing, and then he will tell them I'm due for a spanking for even considering that and for arguing with him about something so silly. But no spanking there. But he's promised me a good one back home, and I deserve that!
DeleteHope you enjoy the 'Julie's broken glass incident' coming up on my blog.
DeleteFrankly I'm a bit surprised at some of the comments you received.
Most of the comments are from guys , and a lot of the comments I have received on my blog indicate that most of them would love it if their wife spanked them in front of their Mom's!
Perhaps because instead it's a woman being spanked by a man they have a problem with it.
You have done way more crazy things than this in the past and everybody loved it.
As long as your parents are open minded about this then I see no harm in them overhearing a mild spanking as long as it is done for fun.
Go with your heart and have fun with it like you always do Julie !
I agree with you for the most part. I know my parents, which is why we already played some mild spanking games around them, and I know they would take it in stride. I also know they would accept my lifestyle choices, so long as they know they are my choices, and not self-destructive. It's more that I don't want to be dishonest with them, and I want the spanking should be done as part of my DD (which IS a bit of fun at the same time as being fun/serious).
DeleteOh, I was also going to add that there is a sex difference here. With a male being spanked, the "default" understanding is that he is consenting, because (for the most part) they are strong enough to resist successfully if they choose. For a woman you need to be SURE it's consensual, 'cause there is no guarantee a woman could resist a spanking (or may be afraid to resist because of fear for her safety).
DeleteI don't think it has anything to with safety Julie , as you know , women are capable of handing out much more severe and humiliating spankings than men!
DeleteNo it's an attitude thing by men who like to be spanked but don't really like it when roles are switched.
I'm a switch so can see it from both sides of the spanking spectrum, my wife gets hand spankings only and not too hard , whereas she has open field when spanking me , and has no problem doing that. All spankings are consensual as that is a given understanding between most couples in my view.
As for the DD contract issue , it is a non-starter for me , this is not a contract under law that will go to court for goodness sake , just mutually agreed guidelines , so just make a change to it to accomodate your needs.
I think people are reading too much into this as it is just a mild spanking for fun , which will not be witnessed , and it is clearly consensual as its your idea.
If safety is a concern , a DD contract will not protect against this.
If there was a concern about your parent's perception of your spanking being non-consensual , therefore abuse , then you could be the one to suggest it instead of David "I guess you had better give me a spanking for that Honey?"
"With pleasure Honey!"
What could be more romantic than that ? Because in my view , spankings are fun , intimate and romantic.
Given your own doubts I suppose you do have to think it through a bit more before you deploy any plan!
i think your parents would love it if it was executed properly.
Me asking for it is a great idea!
DeleteThat's my Gal...Make that spanking fun and romantic !
DeleteBTW if that photo is supposed to look like me you are a long way off doing me justice.....I'm way better looking than him....or so my wife would say !
Oh, I think he's pretty good looking too. I would go across his knee...
DeleteThen you would REALLY love to go across mine!
DeleteI don't think it has anything to do with whether it's a woman or man being spanked. Maybe readers of his blog are mostly horny guys who want to be spanked and are willing to overlook any of the moral issues involved. The issue is purely about consideration of people that are not involved. It's that simple.
DeleteIt's not a "moral" issue. It's more a "politeness" issue I would say.
DeleteReading a moral issue into this is political correctness gone way too far!
DeleteIt's wrong for this guy and others to force their standard of morality on others.
lion, meet glenmore, glenmore meet lion. You both have lovely blogs. You both have a LOT of experience at this. You both can get a bit grumpy at times. Play nicely, Sirs. I value all comments!
DeleteYes Ma'am!
DeleteJoe2 here,
ReplyDeleteWow. When you jump in the pool, you go straight to the deep end!
I'm going to have to go with the rest of the crowd. Wait a month or two. The secondary and tertiary effects could be significant. Do a "pro and con" matrix. Maybe David could do a pre-visit spanking to take the edge off.
If you act like you write, then in a month or two you will naturally do something that will deserve a spanking, so then it will be natural- not contrived. That would make it more natural and your parents won't feel like they are participating in a "scene." Thus, more accepting.
Yes. I've decided, with the help of everybody around me, you guys especially, that honesty is the best policy. We need to tell them about my DD and see how they react. And even then, a peel the onion approach and watching their reactions. Based on that, we either bury it as far as they are concerned or be more open about it.
DeleteThis definitely goes outside of the contract and what you want with the contract. To deliberately go against what he says and do this anyways should definitely lead to a very severe punishment and honestly make him question the contract and your true motives
ReplyDeleteYes Sir. I agree. I'll be honest after all. David says I'm due for a spanking for even thinking about it (and arguing with him about it and being "pig-headed" about it). But is that fair? Spanked for a thought crime???
DeleteSpanked for a thought crime? Hells YES!!
Delete-T.
Geeeze...
DeleteIs it really just a thought crime? Or did it really become a crime they way you talked about it and were going to purposefully do something that could have made several people uncomfortable and quite possibly ruined what you truly need already?
DeleteI’d say a bare red bottom and that nose in the corner will help you see
Well, it was true that I was a bit stubborn and slow in coming around, and disobedient to David in the meantime, but I obeyed in the end!
DeleteYes you did in the end which is better than nothing but doesn’t negate before
DeleteYes Sir...
DeleteI’m not expecting you to call me sir and not trying to be dom with you it’s not my place rather I’m speaking from experience
DeleteOn my subby posts, when I'm getting advice from men, "Yes Sir" comes very naturally for me. If our roles were reversed on a subsequent post, I would expect the same respect from you, bubba.
DeleteI understand just didn’t want you to think I was forcefully trying to be dom
DeleteNo Sir, of course not.
DeleteI agree with many of the other comments here concerning consent. It seems like from your past writings that your mother is generally uncomfortable when this subject comes up and usually changes the conversation, if memory serves me correctly.
ReplyDeleteArghhh! It's not "consent". I'm the one consenting to having my bum beat!
DeleteShe does change the subject, but she has a little smile in her face as she does so!
Hi Julie!
ReplyDeleteI am Thierry, a french long term fan of your blog. I never reacted to your articles, but here I feel compelled to try and do something!
Since a few days, everything has gone so fast that I am wondering wether you are actually still in control. Sexual lust is not renown for its wisdom. And currently you seem to be guided by your pussy rather than by your brain. Spanking and BDSM-like activities are absolutely fine as long as you are doing this with people who are aware of it, understand it and share the approach. But the reaction of outsiders of this world may be quite dramatic. For example, I have a 40-year long friendship with a doctor whose wife has been into a series of depression. She once has been unfaithful to him and even about 20 years later, she still has a feeling of guilt that can’t be cured. I met a lady in a BDSM group who had about the same issue and she managed to overcome it by being a sub, regularly whipped by her master. When I mildly and cautiously started to suggest to my friend that he could try to spank his wife once, he immediately showed some very strong anger. So reactions to spanking can be unexpected and brutal if I may say so.
And your parents are “outsiders “ as far as we know. You can’t know for sure how they are going to react and you might break something without the possibility to undo it later.
Please note that in a way, if you get yourself spanked at your parents’ house you might inadvertently involve your sister. Your parents will probably mention what happened to her and ask if she was aware, if she is the same kind.... you might put her I’ll at ease... or worse. What you intend to do will have an impact on your whole family, not just you and your parents.
Then, there is the reason for sparking. In the first case, you actually threatened your parents’ life. This is a really serious offence. In a way, a spanking might be understandable. But if you get a spanking just for a broken glass, which most people might consider trivial, then it’s a different matter. Your parents might consider David abusive (not so sure it’s correct English) or you absolutely crazy, or both.
Also there is the question of sharing some of your sex life with your parents (because it’s actually a sex impulse). Even if your parents might be open to talk about sex, it’s a different matter to share some of your activities with them. Supposing my daughter would be into spanking, and even though I am in it personally, I wouldn’t want her to do this at home in front of me. I wouldn’t even be interested in seeing her naked. As a man any naked woman is worth looking at, but not my daughter...that wouldn’t be right!
Last but not least David DOESN’T WANT TO DO IT! If you really love him, how can you compel him to do such a thing when he doesn’t want to?
You’d be acting very selfishly which doesn’t seem to be the Julie that we know!
I sincerely hope this will help you at least take a step back and think twice before jumping over the fence into the unknown!
Thank you Thierry - it was a good time to jump in and comment. "you seem to be guided by your pussy rather than by your brain". BLUSH! guilty as charged... I think I should ask David to spank my pussy to teach her not to misbehave so.
DeleteAll your points are really good ones. We will do it the proper way, with a slow conversation and seeing how they react. We already know they won't be so surprised or offended, as the concept of me being spanked has come up several times and they treated it as fun.
But really, you would not want to watch your daughter being spanked by her husband (not brutally, just a simple spanking)? I don't have a daughter, but I do have nieces and nephews. If I knew they were "into it", and they wanted me to watch, I would definitely watch just for the fun of it and to encourage them (and to tease them a little and send them off to their bedroom to "finish the job")!
Hmm, I think I’d agree with the majority of the comments here little lady. Specifically choosing to disobey is grounds for severe punishment. You may want to fulfill a fantasy, but if the point it to fully submit, then that means understanding the consequences of your decisions and accepting them. Seems you might get that real punishment sooner than later, naughty girl.
ReplyDeleteYes. I have been talked out of it, but David has promised me a spanking just for thinking about it!
DeleteThis seems to go completely against the spirit of your contract even appearing to be worst kind of topping from the bottom. Imagine your involved in a scene with David where he is manipulating the whole thing?
ReplyDeleteI’d have thought as a spanked wife you’d be more willing to listen to David and accept hi judgement in the matter.
In fact you should show him what you’ve written and take the consequences young lady.
Yes Sir, that's essentially what's happened. He says I'm getting a spanking for even considering it... :-(
DeleteAnd so well deserved.Now isn't the anticipation just delicious -- and part of what you've wanted all along out of this? TL
DeleteHe says I won't be spanked until AFTER Sunday dinner. So yeah, I guess...
DeleteA good compromise would be to have the embarrassment at your parents and the real spanking at home on the return.
ReplyDeleteDavid may ask you, when arriving at your parents' place, to remain standing during the aperitif while he and your parents are seated. He reminds you that you are being punished and that you have to apologize for the idea you had. It is up to you to explain to your parents the Contract etc ... Finally, David declares that you will also have to serve, clear the table and do the dishes.
Yes Sir, it will turn into something along those lines...
DeleteWish you a great sunday. :)
Deletegosh!
DeleteJulie - let me echo the need to proceed with caution shared by others.
ReplyDeleteFor my part - breaking a glass is an accident and not spank-worthy. Is there alcohol involved at Sunday dinner? If so, you imbibing a bit too much could rise to spank-worthiness - while David would likely wait to spank you at home, he might make a comment at your parents' place.
Regardless, please proceed with caution.
-T.
Yes Sir. Am backing off the 'insane plan".p and we will just speak to them honestly and see their reaction.
DeleteI have a wee bit of a history with alcohol, and so me getting drunk would be a pretty serious thing. Too serious.
A sincere note to everybody commenting...
ReplyDeleteThank You ♥️
I believe you've made the best decision on this. Slow and easy with the folks.
ReplyDeletevic
Yes Sir. Feeling better about it!
DeleteMy wife did such at her mother's home. She is a widow wonderful mother-in-law. I was taken to the bedroom, I'm loud when being spanked. My mother-in-law said through the door when you are done dear, there is a wall in the kitchen he can look at. I was taken, bare from the waist down to the kitchen and faced the wall. My wife told my her mother about the spankings, and she agreed with her daughter. She mentioned how red my bottom was, oh that is nothing my wife said, the bath brush does a better job. Jack
ReplyDeleteWhat a wonderful mother-in-law. I see NO problem with that, at all.
DeleteFacing the wall like a naughty little boy, I wanted to run and hide. My wife told me when take me to the kitchen I best not move, rub, or talk, she then added if I did her Mother lap is where you will be, understand she said, and i surely did.
DeleteYeah, this is the worst idea in the history of bad ideas.
ReplyDeleteDo no do this. You are not nearly as wise as you seem to think you are.
I can not emphasize enough how foolish this is.
Reasons?
DeleteAfter browsing the comments, I’m of two minds on this. I can’t be a hypocrite. I’ve involved “non-consenting” others in my humiliation adventures, most notably Victoria’s Secret saleswomen. I never had a bad experience, but if it did go south I could quickly end it with little harm done. In your scenario, you are pretty much subjecting your parents to loud foreplay and there is no way for them to “unhear” it. As much as we try to claim, “It’s not sex, it’s punishment!”, we all know it’s really sex. I can’t think of any way an adult spanking an adult isn’t partially or mostly about sex. I know my last spanking definitely was. I have photos to prove it! Anyway, I am glad you are tapping the brakes here. It’s not something you can take back if it doesn’t work out as you hope. As you know, I have a family member I dearly would love to be a part of my spanking and humiliation fantasies, but we both understand how badly that request would probably turn out. -david
ReplyDeleteIt's sexy, but it's not about sex. Sex is about sex! It's a husband spanking his wife, consensually, for misbehaviour. Some will see it as abuse, others will see it as sexual foreplay, others will see it as harmless fun, others will see it as a comeuppance. We can't control how others see things. So far my Mom and Dad have seen it as "spicy fun". I want to deepen that a little to "emotionally needy girl craves to be taken in hand - in a spicy way". They may want 0 to do with it, but so far indications are otherwise. If they say Stop, or Too Far, we'll never go there again. And yes, I won't impose anything which is a step too far on them out of the blue, because I'm polite and I don't want to offend them. Same with you and VS girl. Had she become uncomfortable, you would have stopped because you're polite.
DeleteAnd, you know, you could make a mild spanking reference around your family member, something like "sometimes I just need a spanking, I guess". See their reaction.
DeleteThank you for the suggestion! That will give me something to think about until our next get together is possible again.
DeleteI would say the best thing would be for David to give you no-holds-barred spanking (with implements and all) when you are alone in the guest room together.
ReplyDeleteYour parents would probably hear and then if they asked about it you could tell them what goes on, and if they chose not to mention it you can take it that they don't want to be involved.
Suggestion appreciated, and that was my original idea, but someone pointed out that they could see it as abusive. I'd be happy with a mild OTK butt smacking and a very red face!
DeleteWhat do you mean by red face?
DeleteI thought david would spank your ass only not slap your face?
By "red face" I mean blushing in embarrassment.
DeleteThe way you ignite your battalion of men when you go on a new adventure is fascinating. They love you. You are their Julie. And it's deserved. I love you too. Dau
ReplyDeleteOh I know. I have a lot of Daddies and I love them all! They do actually guide me, for real.
DeleteI like the idea, but i have to agree with alot of the posts. I David does not agree - i find it wrong. I would feel abit betrayed if i was put in that situation as David. And i know you have a good mariage, but trust is hard to build.
ReplyDeleteYou are just trying to top from the bottom. I remember at some point you wrote yourself (parafrasing): "When David tells me something he want, i never let him have it. I make a mental note of it, so i can use it in play at a later time." I think you should let David call the shots, if you truly have a good plan, then he would agree right? So your current plans are off.
Maybe again, David doesnt feel safe about it yet, he is new to this role aswell - maybe let him set the pace?
Maybe even consider more innocent public play to warm him up. Including family in this type of thing, is like trying to force your friends to be vegan because you are.
I do wish that you get this fantasy forfilled at some point. But that you are even bringing it up on the blog, it makes me think you can feel its wrong in your heart.
So i beg you, reconsider your approach and have a strategy that David will approve of.
Best regards
Lasse
Agreed. No deceit. Everything in partnership with David. Small steps so we can see if someone is uncomfortable.
DeleteMay be start with playful slaps on your ass every time you pass by him in your parents house (of course make sure you nephews are not there). Better it be only your parents and Sue
ReplyDeleteWe've already loosened them up with some swats like that and some playful talk about spankings.
DeleteWould you want your father to spank you?
ReplyDeleteOh yes. Very much so.
DeleteSo what happened? Did you go to your parents' house or not? In what state are your mind and your buttocks?
ReplyDeleteWe did go. It was different than what I expected...
DeleteJust a hint. Please!
ReplyDeleteNo! (But posting soon)
DeleteYou are mean ! (stomping my foot)
ReplyDeleteThis should sum up your state of mind when you advocated an incident with the dishes to deserve a spanking.
ReplyDeleteIn the audience you will notice many naughty girls enthusiastic about the idea of this spanking promised to crockery breakers. New bare bottom spanking enthusiasts in public?
But without breaking anything, and with convergent facilitation from all the members of your family gathered that day, you managed to get even more, even much better!
Now you have to learn the refrain and sing it on a Sunday evening in French in front of the other guests, with some plates or glasses on your head and lifting a foot... lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wae426JFC1I
Lyrics can easily be found on Internet, also a studio version to have a better idea of the words and how to place them.
Good rehearsals !